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**jacks****Member**- Registered: 2012-11-21
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6 boys and 6 girls are sitting in a row . Then the no. of ways that boys and girls sits alternatively

my solution::

Using gap method::

here X = denote boys and _ = denote girl

Then X _ X _ X _ X _ X _ X _

first we can arrange boys , which can be done in 6! ways

now arrange girls in 7 gaps ,

for that first we select 6 place out of 7 which can be done in C (7,6) ways and now arrange these 6 girls

Which can we done in C(7,6) * 6! = 7!

So total no. of ways is = 6! * 7!

but answer is = 2*6! *6!

so where i have done mistake

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

I am getting 2 * 6! * 6! as the answer. Provided we are assuming the girls and boys are distinct which is reasonable.

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**jacks****Member**- Registered: 2012-11-21
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Yes bobbym you are right.

But where i have done mistake in my solution.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Arrange the girls first in a line;

_ G _ G _ G _ G _ G _ G _ = 6!

In the first _ 6 boys can go

_ G (6 boys ) G _ G _ G _ G _ G _

In the second 5 boys

_ G (6 boys ) G (5 boys ) G _ G _ G _ G _

all the way down to

_ G (6 boys ) G (5 boys ) G (4 boys) G (3 boys) G (2 boys) G _

That can be done in 6 x 5 x 4 x 3 x 2 = 6!

So far we have 6! * 6!, now the last two slots

_ G (6 boys ) G (5 boys ) G (4 boys) G (3 boys) G (2 boys) G _

the one remaining boy can go in 2 ways.

2 * 6! * 6!

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**scientia****Member**- Registered: 2009-11-13
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jacks wrote:

But where i have done mistake in my solution.

Your mistake is in

jacks wrote:

now arrange girls in 7 gaps ,

You can't do that as that allows for possibilities in which there's a girl at both ends, which you don't want. The possibilities are either

X_X_X_X_X_X_

or

_X_X_X_X_X_X

Each set has

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**jacks****Member**- Registered: 2012-11-21
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Thanks bobbym and scientia.

but i did not understand the meaning of

You can't do that as that allows for possibilities in which there's a girl at both ends

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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You can't do that as that allows for possibilities in which there's a girl at both ends

Not at the same time!

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Well, maybe the girls at the ends are in a superposition and our observation force the situation to enter one of the two possible states.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Point is, sometimes it is a guy and sometimes it is not. Depending on what slot the last guy goes into.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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I was just kidding!

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hmmmm. I know that. I know that you kid but you do not joke.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

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**scientia****Member**- Registered: 2009-11-13
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bobbym wrote:

You can't do that as that allows for possibilities in which there's a girl at both ends

Not at the same time!

Exactly. Jacks's method allows girls to be at boths ends at the same tiem that was where his proof went wrong.

He wanted us to tell him where his proof went wrong, didn't he?

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Hi;

I agree.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

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