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## #101 2012-12-07 10:55:35

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### Re: New mathematic on english

#### bobbym wrote:

Hi 21122012;

That is why I said aren't you leaving out a ( 1 / 3 ) earlier.

That all of you time write words. I understand language of formulas. Consider 1/3 and write a formula that you want to tell.

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## #102 2012-12-07 11:31:40

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Hi;

I do not want to take this back that far because you are maybe having difficulties understanding a total derivative. But in post #92 that is not the derivative of the volume of a cone.

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## #103 2012-12-07 11:37:15

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You don't understand than variables differ from constants.  Your division of variables is equal
to division of constants. It is a mistake. Or then at the left not variables, and too constants. Then your formulas don't make sense.

"The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus"

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## #104 2012-12-07 11:49:14

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#### bobbym wrote:

Hi;

I do not take this back that far because you are maybe having difficulties understanding a total derivative.

It is Calculus doesn't understand that such total and that such a partial derivative!

Structural Analysis:
"If function is differentiated on all range of definition that as a result there will be a total derivative and if as private range of definition, as a result there is a partial derivative."

#### bobbym wrote:

But in post #92 that is not the derivative of the volume of a cone.

Here I also proved to you that calculus has mistakes. And you recognized it. Yes?

"The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus"

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## #105 2012-12-07 11:51:28

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Hi;

I do not agree that calculus is wrong. That is an error, it has nothing to do with calculus. I have not spotted any such errors other than human miscalculation.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.
If you can not overcome with talent...overcome with effort.

## #106 2012-12-07 12:16:46

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I do not agree that calculus is wrong. That is an error, it has nothing to do with calculus. I have not spotted any such errors other than human miscalculation.

All mathematical world looks at this mistake many years and anybody didn't correct it!

It therefore why the

line call the
function schedule. Too the whole world looks at it 300 years and pretends that it is the truth.

"The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus"

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## #107 2012-12-07 12:25:32

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I can advise to you here that. Collect mathematical community on conference. Send me money for the road and accommodation. I will arrive and everything to you I will show. I will show the main keys which I yet didn't give anybody. And that will be late and you won't see them.

In that very long to sit and press fingers the keyboard I don't see sense for clever people who want to learn truth. It only for idlers.

"The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus"

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## #108 2012-12-07 12:31:58

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It is possible in a different way. It isn't necessary money send to me the correspondent of any influential newspaper or the magazine who works in Russia. I will make the rest.

P.S.

You agree, what I am not an idiot or down?

Or how?

Last edited by 21122012 (2012-12-07 12:44:29)

"The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus"

Thomas Ioannes Stiltes. ...                                                 I made it!

## #109 2012-12-07 12:38:55

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If you cannot get a handful of us to agree with you, then how are you going to convince a whole conference of mathenaticians to agree?

The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
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“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

## #110 2012-12-07 12:46:13

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Hi;

That is not how it works. I can assure you such a trip is a waste. For such a trip I am afraid you will have to find your own finances.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.
If you can not overcome with talent...overcome with effort.

## #111 2012-12-07 12:47:49

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#### anonimnystefy wrote:

If you cannot get a handful of us to agree with you, then how are you going to convince a whole conference of mathenaticians to agree?

I ask to make you several times different tasks. You don't want to do. All of you time write words, instead of formulas. I doubt that you are a mathematics. There can be it you consider itself as the mathematician, but I don't see it.

"The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus"

Thomas Ioannes Stiltes. ...                                                 I made it!

## #112 2012-12-07 12:49:47

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Hi;

That is not how it works. I can assure you such a trip is a waste. For such a trip I am afraid you will have to find your own finances.

I understand it. It simply was the joke to be discharged

Last edited by 21122012 (2012-12-07 12:52:35)

"The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus"

Thomas Ioannes Stiltes. ...                                                 I made it!

## #113 2012-12-07 19:07:26

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Hi 21122012;

#### 21122012 wrote:

I ask to make you several times different tasks. You don't want to do. All of you time write words, instead of formulas. I doubt that you are a mathematics. There can be it you consider itself as the mathematician, but I don't see it.

Please no comments about anyone else's abilities. He has been fair and polite to you, I want you to be the same. Anonimnystefy is a legendary member. I do not see why you think he is not a mathematician.

#### 21122012 wrote:

Then your formulas don't make sense.

Please treat Bob Bundy with more respect. He is a moderator and should not be treated disrespectfully.

People here like Bob and anonimnystefy are trying to help you. I suggest you stop insisting that the whole mathematical community is wrong and at least consider the possibility that they are right.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.
If you can not overcome with talent...overcome with effort.

## #114 2012-12-07 20:50:45

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Hi 21122012

It seems this thread has no future if you keep insulting everybody...

The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
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“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

## #115 2012-12-08 05:53:59

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Hi, bobbym!
"...whole mathematical community..." claims that the

function represented in drawing in the form of the line is the
function schedule. Explain, what it for nonsense? !

"The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus"

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## #116 2012-12-08 06:12:04

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I have deleted all the comments of a personal nature. That is the end of it. I have already told you no more. I am going to delete anymore of it.

If you can not control your enthusiasm I will close the thread.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.
If you can not overcome with talent...overcome with effort.

## #117 2012-12-08 06:19:45

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Last edited by 21122012 (2012-12-08 12:02:12)

"The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus"

Thomas Ioannes Stiltes. ...                                                 I made it!

## #118 2012-12-08 06:23:44

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I this knew. So was at all forums in Russia. Me allow to offend to any. But when I in reply prove that these insults concern rather to that who them writes than to me my posts delete. And when I prove obviously that I am right, delete my subjects. So will be and here. I already see it.

Last edited by 21122012 (2012-12-08 06:24:46)

"The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus"

Thomas Ioannes Stiltes. ...                                                 I made it!

## #119 2012-12-08 06:27:23

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bobbym thanks!
You and so too long suffered me. Usually silly persons ask the moderator to close a subject quicker. I understand as you heavy to listen to it.

"The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus"

Thomas Ioannes Stiltes. ...                                                 I made it!

## #120 2012-12-08 06:29:09

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I deleted personal comments.

The reason you might be being bounced off of many forums is because you insult moderators and members of those forums. You do not read posts other than your own. Because you post to yourself 4 or 5 times. All of those actions can get you barred from other forums.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.
If you can not overcome with talent...overcome with effort.

## #121 2012-12-08 06:33:56

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I never offend nobody by the first. I correct the messages because my brain thinks figuratively, but texts contain consecutive offers therefore it is difficult to lay the thoughts in the text from the first.

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"The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus"

Thomas Ioannes Stiltes. ...                                                 I made it!

## #122 2012-12-08 06:43:13

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I never offend nobody by the first.

Twice you have called Bob's work to you nonsense. You have posted that anonimnystefy's work is foolish. This you did first.

bobbym thanks!
You and so too long suffered me. Usually silly persons ask the moderator to close a subject quicker.

They are silly because they do not like being insulted? Because they do not agree with you?

I correct the messages because my brain thinks figuratively, and texts contain consecutive offers therefore it is difficult to lay the thoughts in the text from the first.

It does not matter how your brain works. Posting to yourself 5 times is against the rules. Name calling is against the rules.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.
If you can not overcome with talent...overcome with effort.

## #123 2012-12-08 07:08:34

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Everything stirs it to business. So, I ask two questions:

1. CALCULUS claims that the

function represented in drawing in the form of the line is the
function schedule.

You agree, behavior of the line of the schedule of the y=f(x) function it isn't behavior of the function y=f(x) , because other function p=f(x) is represented in the form of the line? !

2. On link:
h ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partial_derivative

it is claimed that calculations by the rules Calculus, received a derivative of volume of a cone. Actually it is a derivative of volume of the cylinder.

You agree that the theory of Calculus contains mistakes which can lead to mistakes at real calculations? !

"The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus"

Thomas Ioannes Stiltes. ...                                                 I made it!

## #124 2012-12-08 07:18:17

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You agree that the theory of Calculus contains mistakes which can lead to mistakes at real calculations? !

I do not agree. I have never known calculus to get the wrong answer to a practical problem. Your other points have already been discussed.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.
If you can not overcome with talent...overcome with effort.

## #125 2012-12-08 07:34:04

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It has already been explained to you:

#### anonimnystefy wrote:

The partial derivative of the expression for volume of a cone is

and when you integrate it you get what you should-the volume of a cone.

What you saw in that article is the total derivative of the volume of a cone. That is a different thing and its integral isn't the volume of a cone, and it shouldn't be, because you aren't differentiating the volume only with respect to h in the first place.

The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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