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Re: New mathematic on english
It is not true that calculus analyses only the line! The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #77 20121206 05:36:12
Re: New mathematic on englishAt me impression that you at all don't see that I give you. "The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus" Thomas Ioannes Stiltes. ... I made it! #78 20121206 06:51:01
Re: New mathematic on english
I showed you a formula of the function represented in the form of the line on graphics of . It is the function. I claim that using CALCULUS, you won't be able to show a formula of the function represented in the form of the line on graphics of the function. But using Syructural Analysis I will be able to show this formula!I approve it, because calculus  the theory not a general view, but special cases which are given mistakenly out for a general view. But Structural Analysis  the theory of a general view. You won't be able to answer such simple question using calculus! "The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus" Thomas Ioannes Stiltes. ... I made it! #79 20121206 07:28:12
Re: New mathematic on english
Now you will answer the your question! "The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus" Thomas Ioannes Stiltes. ... I made it! #80 20121206 07:30:11
Re: New mathematic on englishI'm not sure what you mean by that... The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #81 20121206 08:06:44
Re: New mathematic on englishHi 21122012; In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #82 20121206 10:38:12
Re: New mathematic on english
I claim that using CALCULUS, you won't be able to show a formula of the function represented in the form of the line on graphics of the function . But using Syructural Analysis I will be able to show this formula!"The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus" Thomas Ioannes Stiltes. ... I made it! #83 20121206 10:41:01
Re: New mathematic on english
Answer, please, with two formulas. I will show you as CALCULUS is mistaken! You asked to show. I will show! "The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus" Thomas Ioannes Stiltes. ... I made it! #84 20121206 12:30:12
Re: New mathematic on englishHi; In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #85 20121206 13:27:43
Re: New mathematic on englishHi; "The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus" Thomas Ioannes Stiltes. ... I made it! #86 20121206 15:05:14
Re: New mathematic on englishWell. We integrate this derivative and we receive... cylinder volume: Here to you one real mistake! P.S. h ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partial_derivative Last edited by 21122012 (20121206 15:06:13) "The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus" Thomas Ioannes Stiltes. ... I made it! #87 20121206 20:05:25
Re: New mathematic on englishHi; In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #88 20121206 22:10:21
Re: New mathematic on englishUmm... they are. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #89 20121207 05:17:47
Re: New mathematic on english
What for nonsense? Where here three? I and knew that in reply there will be falsifications. Answer me with two formulas my question of D.1 and D.2. I will show you a mistake. Why you are afraid to answer? "The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus" Thomas Ioannes Stiltes. ... I made it! #90 20121207 05:21:32
Re: New mathematic on englishYes! "...So the differentiation is incorrect." "The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus" Thomas Ioannes Stiltes. ... I made it! #91 20121207 05:38:39
Re: New mathematic on englishBoth in a cone, and in a cilinder the radius and height independent variables. Error of Calculus in application of partial differentiation. That is also expressed in a formula . It is the wrong formula. There have to be two:If 1.  integral with uncertain borders of integration. 2.  uncertain integral. the beater and mistake will disappear! "The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus" Thomas Ioannes Stiltes. ... I made it! #92 20121207 10:06:58
Re: New mathematic on englishWhy you wrote very much? You don't hear me. I showed you the link: according to the Calculus version is specified. I integrated this derivative on height and received cylinder volume: It is wrong.  by cylinder, because:  by cone, becouse: , because . Last edited by 21122012 (20121207 11:29:43) "The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus" Thomas Ioannes Stiltes. ... I made it! #93 20121207 10:11:38
Re: New mathematic on englishYou got it wrong. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #94 20121207 10:33:35
Re: New mathematic on english
That you wrote? I don't understand it! Last edited by 21122012 (20121207 10:36:12) "The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus" Thomas Ioannes Stiltes. ... I made it! #95 20121207 10:38:41
Re: New mathematic on englishI'm sorry. Let me try again: What you saw in that article is the total derivative of the volume of a cone. That is a different thing and its integral isn't the volume of a cone, and it shouldn't be, because you aren't differentiating the volume only with respect to h in the first place. Last edited by anonimnystefy (20121207 10:39:38) The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #96 20121207 10:42:36
Re: New mathematic on englishHi 21122012; In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #97 20121207 10:44:05
Re: New mathematic on englishHi bobbym The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #98 20121207 10:46:33
Re: New mathematic on englishGoing into functions with two variables so that partials are needed is overkill. If calculus is wrong then he should look for a single variable mistake. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #99 20121207 10:48:55
Re: New mathematic on english
Let's make simpler. Write everything that you want to tell for my drawing D2. Write down formulas by total and partial derivatives! "The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus" Thomas Ioannes Stiltes. ... I made it! #100 20121207 10:52:01
Re: New mathematic on english
Not important AS passed calculation, it is important that result wrong. And here in what a mistake we will consider below. "The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus" Thomas Ioannes Stiltes. ... I made it! 