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You are not logged in. #26 20121204 16:27:50
Re: A few questionsHi Avon;
No need for an apology I was not offended, I just wanted Agnishom to know I was not annoyed or put off that he was asking questions about the alleged proof. As you stated he was correct is asking for more.
Hmmm, since the day I was born that has been true. You are correct, the hole in my reasoning is in 2). I thought I could get around that and thus leave out the derivation as he supplied in the book. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #27 20121204 20:58:47
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Hi bobbym Last edited by anonimnystefy (20121204 20:59:17) The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #28 20121204 21:04:19
Re: A few questionsHi; In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #29 20121204 21:06:25
Re: A few questionsYes. Last edited by anonimnystefy (20121204 21:07:47) The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #30 20121204 21:13:32
Re: A few questionsYes, but that would only change the order. Since the assignments of a,b,c,d is arbitrary the order does not count. No matter how we permute it the 4 girls ages are the same. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #31 20121204 22:30:05
Re: A few questionsHi all, "The good news about computers is that they do what you tell them to do. The bad news is that they do what you tell them to do."  Ted Nelson #32 20121204 23:08:52
Re: A few questionsHi phrontister; In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #33 20121204 23:27:31
Re: A few questionsHmm... I also tried doing it on my own 'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.' 'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it' 'Who are you to judge everything?' Alokananda #34 20121204 23:28:16
Re: A few questionsHi Bobby, "The good news about computers is that they do what you tell them to do. The bad news is that they do what you tell them to do."  Ted Nelson #35 20121204 23:30:48
Re: A few questionsHi; In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #36 20121204 23:32:00
Re: A few questionsYes, exactly the same. The only difference is that yours are fractions and mine are decimal. "The good news about computers is that they do what you tell them to do. The bad news is that they do what you tell them to do."  Ted Nelson #37 20121204 23:40:46
Re: A few questionsOkay, thanks for checking. I think Mr. Agnishom's question has been answered. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #38 20121204 23:45:57
Re: A few questionsMy answers match too.... 'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.' 'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it' 'Who are you to judge everything?' Alokananda #39 20121204 23:49:14
Re: A few questionsHi Bobby, "The good news about computers is that they do what you tell them to do. The bad news is that they do what you tell them to do."  Ted Nelson #40 20121204 23:54:03
Re: A few questionsHi phrontister; In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #41 20121204 23:55:01
Re: A few questionsYes I know it is called a modulo operation, .... How do you tackle it? 'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.' 'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it' 'Who are you to judge everything?' Alokananda #42 20121205 00:02:30
Re: A few questionsWhen they are both positive like that the simplest way is take the integer part of the answer which is 11. We say: In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #43 20121205 00:03:39
Re: A few questionsHere's how I think about it: I'll let bobbym explain modulo. I know what it does, but I forget why. "The good news about computers is that they do what you tell them to do. The bad news is that they do what you tell them to do."  Ted Nelson #44 20121205 00:06:34
Re: A few questionsHi phrontister; In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #45 20121205 00:07:47
Re: A few questionsI am terribly embarassed about it 'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.' 'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it' 'Who are you to judge everything?' Alokananda #46 20121205 00:17:24
Re: A few questionsHi Bobby, "The good news about computers is that they do what you tell them to do. The bad news is that they do what you tell them to do."  Ted Nelson #47 20121205 00:28:26
Re: A few questionsHi Agnishom, But I'm off to bed now (very early start in the morning), so I'll leave the answer to others. "The good news about computers is that they do what you tell them to do. The bad news is that they do what you tell them to do."  Ted Nelson #48 20121205 00:30:53
Re: A few questionsYes sorry Please don't mind 'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.' 'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it' 'Who are you to judge everything?' Alokananda #49 20121205 03:41:52
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Last edited by scientia (20121205 03:44:11) #50 20121205 13:23:41
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Will you please explain this line? 'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.' 'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it' 'Who are you to judge everything?' Alokananda 