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You are not logged in. #101 20121109 08:52:43
Re: ExpectationFrom the definition of expectation..
What is CCP? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #102 20121109 08:54:55
Re: ExpectationWe have not come to it yet but we soon will. Do you know another way for the last problem? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #103 20121109 08:57:06
Re: ExpectationI do not. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #104 20121109 08:59:49
Re: ExpectationHi; In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #105 20121109 09:01:49
Re: Expectation
Did you not see the first sentence of this post? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #106 20121109 09:02:55
Re: ExpectationYes, I did and I said we have not got to it yet. CCP is short for Coupon Collector Problem. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #107 20121109 09:08:34
Re: ExpectationNo, I didn't mean that. The text before the quote is on its own. It is not conected to the rest of the post. It was an answer to your previously asked question. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #108 20121109 09:09:52
Re: ExpectationI see, but I think I already answered the question with post #104. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #109 20121109 09:11:41
Re: ExpectationPost #104 told me sometying I had already known Last edited by anonimnystefy (20121109 09:12:10) The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #110 20121109 09:12:45
Re: ExpectationWell then, when I asked for another way you should have posted it prior to post #104 In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #111 20121109 09:17:11
Re: ExpectationI did! It is in the first part of post #101! The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #112 20121109 09:19:26
Re: ExpectationYes, I know but it is nice to see the formula actually in front of you... In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #113 20121109 09:29:49
Re: ExpectationDo you have another problem? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #114 20121109 09:30:58
Re: ExpectationI have many problems, social, psychological and math. Which do you want to try and solve? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #115 20121109 09:32:50
Re: ExpectationLet's try math first. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #116 20121109 09:35:27
Re: ExpectationOkay. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #117 20121109 10:39:29
Re: ExpectationHi bobbym The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #118 20121109 10:43:39
Re: ExpectationYes! Very good! Although it does not look like it that is a CCP. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #119 20121109 10:58:08
Re: ExpectationOh, but it does look like a CCP. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #120 20121109 11:04:51
Re: ExpectationFirst, how did you solve the last one? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #121 20121109 19:22:12
Re: ExpectationI solved it using absorbing Markov chains. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #122 20121109 20:02:33
Re: ExpectationHmmm, mind If I see it? Then I can show you another way. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #123 20121110 01:24:43
Re: ExpectationIt's a pretty large one to do by hand. Last edited by anonimnystefy (20121110 01:25:14) The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #124 20121110 01:48:51
Re: ExpectationHi;
No one but a lunatic would want to. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #125 20121110 04:45:09
Re: ExpectationWhy 6/k? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment 