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Re: What do you think?Hidden message abuse! I have discovered a truly marvellous signature, which this margin is too narrow to contain. Fermat Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world. Archimedes Young man, in mathematics you don't understand things. You just get used to them.  Neumann #1902 20121102 23:53:21
Re: What do you think?Hi Shivamcoder3013; In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #1903 20121104 23:04:00
Re: What do you think?Hi Bobby, "The good news about computers is that they do what you tell them to do. The bad news is that they do what you tell them to do."  Ted Nelson #1904 20121104 23:25:08
Re: What do you think?Hi phrontister; In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #1905 20121104 23:40:04
Re: What do you think?Hi Bobby, "The good news about computers is that they do what you tell them to do. The bad news is that they do what you tell them to do."  Ted Nelson #1906 20121104 23:45:54
Re: What do you think?Hi phrontister; In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #1907 20121105 09:00:47
Re: What do you think?Hi bobbym The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #1908 20121105 09:20:39
Re: What do you think?
What if they have only one child and that child has 5 of his own childeren? We aren't given the probability of 5 children... Last edited by anonimnystefy (20121105 09:43:52) The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #1909 20121105 09:31:09
Re: What do you think?Yikes! What in the name of a holy yoctometer are you talking about? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #1910 20121105 09:32:29
Re: What do you think?Seems you missed post #1907. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #1911 20121105 09:36:25
Re: What do you think?Hmmm, and now you are getting your just reward! In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #1912 20121105 09:38:42
Re: What do you think?I don't understand... The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #1913 20121105 09:40:02
Re: What do you think?Do you not know my age? Are ye unaware of the aging process? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #1914 20121105 09:45:14
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Well, you told me you were 9,99 and 92. I'm not sure which (if not all) version to believe. And yes, I am aware of it... What does that have to do with what I asked you? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #1915 20121105 09:49:10
Re: What do you think?Well, us old people we forget things. Everyday I lose a couple of neurons and along with them a fact or two. I used to know what the heck that problem was talking about but I forgot. That is the price you pay for not answering problems promptly. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #1916 20121105 09:51:53
Re: What do you think?
If you read the problem you will see that we are not given the probability that a couple has 5 children... The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #1917 20121105 09:54:45
Re: What do you think?I do not think you need that information. Four children could marry and produce 5 grandchildren could they not? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #1918 20121105 09:57:58
Re: What do you think?But for the expected value, I need to include all possibilities of getting 5 grandchildren including having 5 children, each having 1 child and having only 1 child who has 5 children of his own. Thus, I need the information about the probability of having 5 children... The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #1919 20121105 10:03:52
Re: What do you think?Who said anything about expected value? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #1920 20121105 10:07:00
Re: What do you think?Sorry, probability. But we still need the probability of having 5 children... Last edited by anonimnystefy (20121105 10:12:26) The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #1921 20121105 10:09:57
Re: What do you think?It is not necessary to know that. You can derive it from the other information. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #1922 20121105 10:13:05
Re: What do you think?But then the problem gets much tougher... The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #1923 20121105 10:15:50
Re: What do you think?Not necessarily, if you remember the methods you have been taught. If you remember Richard. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #1924 20121105 10:25:30
Re: What do you think?Feynmen? You only mentioned that story where he used DUIS. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #1925 20121105 10:31:10
Re: What do you think?Nope! That story is not just for DUIS. It says a lot more than that. Feynmann is telling us something important there... In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. 