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#51 2012-10-23 10:36:27

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Re: Coding

I do not anymore. But lisp is the forerunner of all the CAS.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#52 2012-10-23 10:43:16

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And what is it that Lisp has to be the base of all CAS?


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#53 2012-10-23 10:45:03

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Because it was the first language that was written for AI. A CAS can be thought of as an expert system ( one of AI's triumphs ).


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#54 2012-10-23 10:49:33

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And you are saying that a mathematical package is all any programmer would ever need?


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#55 2012-10-23 10:54:10

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A brilliant guy I knew wrote an article entitled "Commonsense, Brute Force and the Computer," that answered questions like that.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#56 2012-10-23 11:28:41

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And what is his answer to the question above?


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#57 2012-10-23 11:31:45

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I am not sure, the article never got published and he went mad.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#58 2012-10-23 11:52:37

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It's a good thing Lisp doesn't use a lot parenthesis. Programs would get messy otherwise...


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#59 2012-10-23 11:57:04

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Hohohoohohohoohohoooho! That is a good one.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#60 2012-10-23 20:18:35

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It was mostly sarcastic.


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#61 2012-10-23 20:19:47

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Yes, I know. But since I am not the inventor of Lisp...


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#62 2012-10-23 20:59:17

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Can Lisp do everything C++ can?


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#63 2012-10-23 21:13:00

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Generally, what one language can do so can the others, one way or another.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#64 2012-10-24 00:12:19

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LISP = Lots of Infuriating and Silly Parenthesis

Remember?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#65 2012-10-24 00:15:02

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And "he went mad"
Do you mean it literally?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#66 2012-10-24 00:17:43

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Hi Agnishom;

Yes, I was waiting for him to say that. The syntax of many languages is the hardest part for me.

He did not really go mad. He went on to be an administrator of a math forum.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#67 2012-10-24 00:22:30

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Do you mean yourself?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#68 2012-10-24 00:28:44

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Hi Agnishom;

Yes, that was me when I was only a little bit older than you are.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#69 2012-10-24 00:34:21

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sad
I feel sorry for you

Why don't you publish it in your own blog?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#70 2012-10-24 00:38:52

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Hi;

I feel sorry for you

Do not be, I was not seriously upset about it  back then. I enjoyed writing it and that was good enough.

It was burned along with all my work when I was young.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#71 2012-10-24 00:43:39

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Burned? If you were not upset, then why burn? Other works, Did you burn them too?

I mean intentionally or unintentionally?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#72 2012-10-24 00:46:43

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They were burned in a fire that was not my doing. I remember watching as the building I lived in burned down and feeling almost relieved.

Later on, for three days I rummaged through the ashes to salvage my stuff.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#73 2012-10-24 00:55:12

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Why "Relieved"?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#74 2012-10-24 01:01:03

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That is difficult to explain.

Einstein wrote:

Every possession is a stone around your leg.

Einstein was surely very influenced by Henry David Thorough and he was influenced by Hindu philosophy.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#75 2012-10-24 01:07:11

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Hmmm....
Was the fire an accident or was it caused by your enemies?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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