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Proving Something NewI've always been curious about something. Suppose you had found out something new in math, and you had a way of proving it to be true, how would you let the rest of the world know about it? When asking my brother the same question, he answered that one would need to distribute the proof amongst as many people as one can, more so mathematicians, so they can try to prove it wrong, and if no one was able to prove it wrong, then it is most likely correct, and will eventually become better known. I had my doubts about this and wanted to ask, remembering I had joined this forum some time ago, I figured it was more appropriate considering this is a math forum. Some of you might remember me back when I was trying to argue that 3.3...+6.6...=9.9...and not 10, only to admit defeat later as rules of math already said this was true. Anyway, my only point is, I am just unsure and would like a second opinion on this, is what my brother saying true, and that someone would need to let other mathematicians know about it, or is this actually wrong and would require something else to be done? Last edited by Calligar (20121009 22:16:50) Life isn’t a simple Math: there are always other variables. [unknown] But Nature flies from the infinite, for the infinite is unending or imperfect, and Nature ever seeks an end. Aristotle #2 20121009 21:54:08
Re: Proving Something NewHi Calligar; In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #3 20121009 22:22:29
Re: Proving Something NewWhat if one wanted to do so more privately? Life isn’t a simple Math: there are always other variables. [unknown] But Nature flies from the infinite, for the infinite is unending or imperfect, and Nature ever seeks an end. Aristotle #4 20121009 22:27:08
Re: Proving Something NewIf you stay private how is anyone going to know of your discovery? Sooner or later you have to publish, post or submit to a journal or site. The longer you delay the greater the chance that someone will follow in your footsteps. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #5 20121009 22:30:27
Re: Proving Something NewI am more so just asking, I know numerous people who if they discovered something they would not like to be known but in the case they were to discover something, they would also want the rest of the world to know as well, it is more of a question out of curiosity and was looking for answers because I've often wondered it for quite some time... Life isn’t a simple Math: there are always other variables. [unknown] But Nature flies from the infinite, for the infinite is unending or imperfect, and Nature ever seeks an end. Aristotle #6 20121009 22:33:32
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Depends on what you have discovered. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #7 20121009 22:38:27
Re: Proving Something NewEven if someone else takes the credit in order for one to stay anonymous? Life isn’t a simple Math: there are always other variables. [unknown] But Nature flies from the infinite, for the infinite is unending or imperfect, and Nature ever seeks an end. Aristotle #8 20121009 22:41:30
Re: Proving Something NewThat is interesting. If someone else takes the credit then he is the discoverer. The anonymous person might remain unknown for all time, unless the credit taker blabs... In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #9 20121009 22:46:01
Re: Proving Something NewOkay, thanks, I was just curious because my friend said he discovered something recentally to do with math. When he asked me the same question, I had no idea how to respond to him and simply said, I don't know. I began asking my brother and a bunch of other people, majority of people seem not to know, my brother is the only one to give a response so far, you the second. I still have my doubts though, but at least I have more to tell him now. Life isn’t a simple Math: there are always other variables. [unknown] But Nature flies from the infinite, for the infinite is unending or imperfect, and Nature ever seeks an end. Aristotle #10 20121009 22:55:53
Re: Proving Something NewDoubts about what? Please clarify. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #11 20121009 23:09:32
Re: Proving Something NewWell, for instance, I do not personally know much about how honest this forum is, none the less, that really does not matter. It is not that I do not believe you but that I have been told before never just take the word of another, rather think upon it and decide for yourself if it is true or not (or something like that). Therefore, without me personally knowing the people on this forum, I can not just unfortunately come to believe this. (By the way, please do not mistaken me calling you dishonest either, it is just more the way I think) On top of that, that is more so just an opinion. As for the other thing you said, that has more validity, (about vixra), though, I am not familiar with this website, so I'll just tell my friend about it, and if he still thinks he has the new idea, he can take a look at it himself. Again, I was getting very curious myself because no one else seems to have had any answers, to be honest though, yours seems more assuring then my brothers answer. Life isn’t a simple Math: there are always other variables. [unknown] But Nature flies from the infinite, for the infinite is unending or imperfect, and Nature ever seeks an end. Aristotle #12 20121009 23:22:31
Re: Proving Something NewIf you are asking me to prove my honesty, that I will not do. No one would believe anyone saying they are honest. So, let me speak for the others. There are no plagiarists here. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #13 20121009 23:37:43
Re: Proving Something NewNo sorry, was not asking you to prove your honesty. Was just merely...explaining why I can't just simply take your word for it, as it was more of an explanation as to why I had doubts since you had asked me to clarify. It was a lesson taught to me a long time ago by my father, even that I had to think about before thinking of it as being true; but I'm pretty sure you can guess now what I think of that. Anyway, I apologize, I was ONLY trying to clarify like you had asked, and was not really sure of a better way to explain it without going into further detail. Last edited by Calligar (20121009 23:43:41) Life isn’t a simple Math: there are always other variables. [unknown] But Nature flies from the infinite, for the infinite is unending or imperfect, and Nature ever seeks an end. Aristotle #14 20121009 23:43:35
Re: Proving Something NewHi; In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. 