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**n1corponic****Member**- Registered: 2012-09-10
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...how we find the interval where the function e^x-e^(3x) is increasing... the derivative is e^x[1 - 3e^(2x)]. I have the answer but I feel lost..

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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hi n1corponic

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

Did you look at a graph at all?

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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OK, here we go.

Your differentiation is correct. For an increasing function you want dy/dx to be > 0

e^x is always positive so you need

log base e is an increasing function so the inequality holds if you take logs

Graph below.

Bob

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**n1corponic****Member**- Registered: 2012-09-10
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bobbym wrote:

Hi;

Did you look at a graph at all?

Hi bobbym! I took a look at the graph in wolframalpha or smth..but it won't help on my future exams.. if i do not know how to find the answer on my own.

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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My post 4 may have been missed as bobbym and I posted together.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.**

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**n1corponic****Member**- Registered: 2012-09-10
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bob bundy wrote:

OK, here we go.

Your differentiation is correct. For an increasing function you want dy/dx to be > 0

e^x is always positive so you need

log base e is an increasing function so the inequality holds if you take logs

Graph below.

Bob

Your approach seems wonderful!!! and according to me correct.. but why does the book i have give another..but very similar answer?.. it says x<or=-1/2*ln3 Is it the same but i'm missing smth??

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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hi n1corponic

They are the same because

But the book shouldn't be saying less than and equal to because the graph has a turning point when = so dy/dx = 0

So the value of the function isn't getting bigger.

Bob

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**n1corponic****Member**- Registered: 2012-09-10
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bob bundy wrote:

hi n1corponic

They are the same because

But the book shouldn't be saying less than and equal to because the graph has a turning point when = so dy/dx = 0

So the value of the function isn't getting bigger.

Bob

wow! they are the same indeed! I feel sooooo much better now!

Well, the book says (-infinity, -1/2*ln3] , so I guess it includes -1/2*ln3 probably because the question doesn't ask where the fuction strictly...increases..that must be it! right?

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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The square bracket means include the endpoint. It seems I am assuming too much. If it doesn't say strictly, I concede the argument.

Bob

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**n1corponic****Member**- Registered: 2012-09-10
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bob bundy wrote:

The square bracket means include the endpoint. It seems I am assuming too much. If it doesn't say strictly, I concede the argument.

Bob

Thank you for everything!!!!!!! bob bundy!!!!!! plus congrats to owner..admins..moderators etc. for this great site! cheers!

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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hi n1corponic

You are welcome. Post again if you need to.

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