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**Al-Allo****Member**- Registered: 2012-08-23
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Hey everyone...I have a little question : How do you factorise big numbers ?

I could just use my calculator but that would be too long... Is there any technique known that I could use ? Take this number : 2016. I must put it in a tree of factors... But there's too many possibilites ..

Thanks !

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

For a number like 2016 you use trial division. Do you know how?

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.**

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**Al-Allo****Member**- Registered: 2012-08-23
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Mmmh.. An example would be helpful. I already have the prime numbers of 2016. Would that be helpful to find the others ?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Are you looking for the divisors?

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.**

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**Al-Allo****Member**- Registered: 2012-08-23
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Well, basically, I have the number 2016 and must find its factors in a tree of factors. Could you show me how to proceed ? I don't know if my question is clear^^

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

What do you mean by a tree of factors. Got a web page with a picture?

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.**

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**Al-Allo****Member**- Registered: 2012-08-23
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I have 2016, the prime numbers at the end, now I need to find the others... I'll be creating you a diagram,

I can't post a link

*Last edited by Al-Allo (2012-08-23 08:16:18)*

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Seen this page?

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**Al-Allo****Member**- Registered: 2012-08-23
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No, but that's what I'Ve been talking about. I have all the prime numbers, but I don't know how to find the others....

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**Al-Allo****Member**- Registered: 2012-08-23
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I know that 2016 = 2 exponent 5 . 3 exponent 2 . 7

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Did you try that page? It is self explanatory.

Here is what wolfram does. Okay, where did he go? One second he was here and the next, The Twilight Zone!

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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hi Al-Allo

2016 is even so divide out a 2.

Keep doing this until you end up with an odd number.

There are some other tricks for finding some factors. Do you want to know these?

Bob

You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him find it within himself..........Galileo Galilei

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