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#1 2012-07-29 16:25:45
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Quadratic Equation
Hello everyone! Please help me to continue solving this equation:
-7((1/x)-1)=4+2((1/x)-1)^2
Here's what I did:
I let w= (1/x)-1
So I have:
-7w=4+2w^2
2w^2+7w+4=0
Then I factored it using quadratic equation so I've got:
w= (-7±√17)/4 *Note: √17 is square root of 17.
Since w= (1/x)-1
(1/x)-1= (-7+√17)/4 and (1/x)-1= (-7-√17)/4
I find it hard to evaluate the value of x from the 2 equations I've got. Maybe I've done something wrong in simplifying these 2 or much worse,my entire solution is wrong.So please help me find the way out. I'm also looking for other way to solve it. If someone out there know it, kindly share it to me. I would be very grateful for someone who'd help. I'd be waiting for replies then! Have a nice day!
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#2 2012-07-29 18:16:59
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hi 295Ja
Welcome to the forum!
That method is the one I would have chosen and you have done it correctly.
Alternatively you could substitute y = 1/x and make a quadratic in y. It would be more complicated because you'd have to expand the bracket squared.
Or you could clear the brackets from the original, (more complicated) then times by x^2 to clear the fractions. Again, more steps.
You can rearrange your answer like this:
so
I've checked these in the original and both work ok.
Hope that helps!
Bob
You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him find it within himself..........Galileo Galilei
#3 2012-07-29 19:15:28
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Bob thank you for helping! I hope you won't mind if I'll visit this forum more often and post problems I'll find confusing in the future.
May I just ask for one clarification? I remember my teacher told us that we must avoid doing cross multiplication
when there is a variable involve. But I just noticed that to arrive on the answer to my question, x must be cross multiply to -3±√ 17. If I'll just state on my solution that x≠0, will it be allright to do a cross-multiplication?
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#4 2012-07-29 19:32:08
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Hi 295Ja;
Welcome to the forum.
I think you are mistaking the term cross multiplying for division. You may never divide by 0 unless it is stated in the problem that x ≠ 0.
So if a variable might be 0 you should not divide by it. In this case from the formulation of the problem you can see that they are saying x ≠ 0.
I hope you won't mind if I'll visit this forum more often and post problems I'll find confusing in the future.
That is the purpose of the forum. It is a place where like minds can freely share information.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#6 2012-07-29 19:54:22
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Hi;
It is 2:55 AM here.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
.#8 2012-07-29 20:12:13
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Do not admire me. I do not require much sleep and am capable of going without any for 36 hours or so.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#9 2012-07-29 20:14:38
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hi 295Ja
Here is an example where 'cross-multiplying' has been done incorrectly.
Student remembers about cross multiplying, but does it incorrectly:
It is because of this sort of mistake that teachers advise against using cross multiplication.
I prefer to teach 'multiply every term by the same amount', so in the above example:
Another thing you may find helpful is to convert the algebra to numbers.
In my example, suppose u = 3, v = 6 and f = 2
In the original:
This is correct.
In the error version:
This is NOT CORRECT so the error is revealed.
In my correct version:
This has come out correctly.
This is not a guarantee that no mistake has been made as I might just have been lucky to get the 'right answer', but it will help to confirm that what you have done is right.
It is 11.14 am in the UK.
Bob
You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him find it within himself..........Galileo Galilei
#12 2012-07-29 23:25:25
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Hi;
bobbym I can't help it but to admire you more.
If only someone I knew felt that way.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#13 2012-07-29 23:36:39
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hi bobbym,
Who do you count as " someone I knew" ?
Does it have to be past tense?
What I mean is: " I know you and I admire you more every day."
On the other hand, perhaps you were hoping for female admiration, in which case, I cannot help you there.
hi 295Ja
You are welcome.
Bob
You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him find it within himself..........Galileo Galilei
#14 2012-07-30 00:21:01
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Hi;
On the other hand, perhaps you were hoping for female admiration
A person like that could be described as a wolf or maybe just a darn fool.
What I mean is: " I know you and I admire you more every day."
That was my feeling about you so you can not borrow it.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.