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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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hi

Can you prove this is bigger than the number from post #23 ?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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Yup.Your number has 27 digits (look at wolfram's output).Mine clearly has 51.

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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Fair enough. I bow to your use of Wolfram to actually calculate the number.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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I didn't calculate the whole number. It showed it in tge form a.bcdefg... x 10^26. There were a few more digits in the decimal,but tge number still stays 27 digits long. What is your number?

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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So I'll have

This number needs no computation as such but if you wanted to write it down, then, at one digit per second, you could do it in half a year.

You haven't set a limit on how much paper I am allowed.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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Computers can carry out those computations in quite a reasonable time,so I think it would be accepted. You can even get a closed form of that by hand and it becomes quite obvious what the number is.

My number is (((3!)!)!)!

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**Stangerzv****Member**- Registered: 2012-01-30
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There is no such thing biggest number but bigger number because of the fact 1/x is too big when x=0. If there is such thing biggest number, it could always be 1 because the infinite universe was confined in a single unit when t=0s during the big bang:)

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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Yes,that is right. But the point is finding a bigger number than somwbody else in the quest of searching for the biggest number,which of course doesn't exist.

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**ganesh****Moderator**- Registered: 2005-06-28
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anonimnystefy wrote:

My number is (((3!)!)!)!

And my number is

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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2**googolplex

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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Wooah! Are you planning to compute this number in half a year?

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**ganesh****Moderator**- Registered: 2005-06-28
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anonimnystefy wrote:

2**googolplex

The smallest number apart from 0 and 1 which is a perfect square, cube, fourth, fifth, ..... and googolplexth power.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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Apparently it is 10^10^10^2 away from ganesh's number.

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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Are you planning to compute this number in half a year?

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**ganesh****Moderator**- Registered: 2005-06-28
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Hi anonimnystefy,

The smallest number apart from 0 and 1 which is a perfect square, cube, fourth, fifth, ...., and one thousandth power is roughly

.The number which is the smallest number apart from 0 and 1 which is a perfect square, cube, fourth, fifth, .... and googolplexth power which would be much much greater!

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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But I want to know that you can compute these suggestions.

Your number must also be computable in a reasonable amount of time (e.g. Within half a year ).

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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I think it will be better if ganesh answred that question,cause mine is just a one added to the 10^10^2 place.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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PS. Wolfram says 4^4^4^4 is less than (((3!)!)!)!

Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most. ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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**ganesh****Moderator**- Registered: 2005-06-28
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I estimate the number by rough calculation. The answer would be roughly lesser than

.I am not sure with the powers. The only I may say with some degree of accuracy is the upper limit seems relatively certain.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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anonimnystefy wrote:

PS. Wolfram says 4^4^4^4 is less than (((3!)!)!)!

Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most. ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.

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**ganesh****Moderator**- Registered: 2005-06-28
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I think you are right. Your number is bigger.

I overlooked the number of factorial symbols.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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It's okay.

Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most. ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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So am I correct that

(((3!)!)!)!

is the biggest so far that is computable?

Bob

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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Yup.

Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most. ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.

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