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#1 2012-04-29 13:17:16
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Find an equation showing special graph
I'm a Chinese high school student who love equation and function CRAZILY ! And I've found a lot about this mathematical game.Let's look into!
Absolution,I think it useful but unpleasant,can make any project practicable.As is known to all,the equation "ab=0" is equal to"a=0 or b=0".Similarly,"g(x,y)f(x,y)=0" is equal to "g(x,y)=0 or f(x,y)=0",so now you can use "plus" to combine different plots.And another equation "f²(x,y)+g²(x,y)=0" is equal to "f(x,y)=0 and g(x,y)=0",and in this way you can cut a part of plot.How? There comes the equation "|x-a|+|x-b|-|a-b|=0",whose graph is a part of the plane.Now,let's graph "(x-y)²+(|x-1|+|x+1|-2)²=0".It's a segment.We find |x-1|+|x+1|-2>0,so this equation can be simplified as (x-y)²+|x-1|+|x+1|=2.
This is easy,but not best.Keep patient and you're due to find an equation showing special meanings.Take your aim apart and find equations describe them,and combine them together.
But I dislike absolution,so I found the "fusion".We plus "x=1" and "(x+1/2)²+y²=1",and then we got "x((x+1/2)²+y²)=1".whose plot is the fusion of a circle and straight line.Similarly,many plots can be combine in this way.
There are lots of tips but I can only convey those with my poor English.To show more about this geeks' game I will show you some my original equations.
What's more,have you found some interesting graphs of equation?Share it if it's convenient to you!
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#2 2012-04-29 20:16:55
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Aaaaa......the most beautiful one is larger than 100kb
The function is:
y=abs[x]-abs[x/2+3]-abs[x/2-3]+3(x-14)(x-16)/abs[2(x-14)(x-16)]+3(x-12)(x-18)/abs[(x-12)(x-18)]+(sqrt[4-(abs[x-14]-abs[x-16])^2]+sqrt[36-(abs[x-12]-abs[x-18])^2])/4-3+(18+abs[2x+24]+abs[2x-24]-abs[2x+12]-abs[2x-12]-6(x-14)(x-16)/abs[(x-14)(x-16)]-6(x-12)(x-18)/abs[(x-12)(x-18)]-18(x+14)(x+16)/abs[(x+14)(x+16)]+sqrt[4-(abs[x-14]-abs[x-16])^2]-sqrt[36-(abs[x-12]-abs[x-18])^2])sin[5pi*x]/4
Everyone knows that the heart cruve is a closed cruve so we can't find a functiom with a heart-shaped plot.Really?
y=x^(2/3)+sqrt(4-x^2)sin(5pi*x)
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#3 2012-04-30 20:03:32
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Hi Sumasoltin;
Welcome to the forum.
For your heart curve, what is the interval for x?
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#4 2012-04-30 21:07:08
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Hi bobbym;
Thank you.I'm sorry to have forgot to say that.The first one is from x=-25 to 20,and the second is in [-5,5]
I found something interesting I set down before:Nike equation
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#5 2012-04-30 21:20:18
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These images are so cool! How did you derive the heart curve and Nike curve?
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#6 2012-04-30 21:54:23
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Hi Sumasoltin;
What are you using to do the graphing?
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90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#7 2012-04-30 22:04:27
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Hi bobbym;
There are lots of mathematical softwares,like matlb,mathematic,and to graph equations I prefer GrafEq(w w w .xamuel.com/graphs-of-implicit-equations)
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#8 2012-04-30 22:07:21
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y=x^(2/3)+sqrt(4-x^2)sin(5pi*x)
Are you sure this is the right equation?
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Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#9 2012-04-30 22:12:09
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Hi anonimnystefy;
Aaaa......they are created in different ways.Some are using the transformation in which we replace x by x±f(x).
#11 2012-04-30 22:19:26
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Nothing yet, I am rechecking, probably the program.
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90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#12 2012-04-30 22:20:34
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Oh,I got it ! Different softwares define "x^(2/3)" differently.It should be (x^2)^(1/3)
#13 2012-04-30 22:22:24
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Still not a heart graph!
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#15 2012-04-30 22:27:32
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Oh,yes! Got it now! Thanks for the cool graph! Got more? 
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#16 2012-04-30 22:28:28
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Yes, I got that, I did not see the heart at first.
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90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#17 2012-04-30 22:31:01
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Here's another heart graph that you get by varying the constant with pi*x inside the sine function:
'Nother Heart Graph
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#18 2012-04-30 22:32:36
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What is cbrt?
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90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#19 2012-04-30 22:33:56
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Cube root function.
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#20 2012-04-30 23:06:27
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Got MIF's graph to do it.
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90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#21 2012-04-30 23:12:51
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Good! It is nice. Did you try using sin(k*pi*x) instead of sin(5*pi*x) for arbitrary values of k?
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#22 2012-04-30 23:13:01
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ρ=1-cosθ , an old equation shows heart cruve (bottom instead I think).But I found "(x²+y²-1)³=x²y³" on WolframAlpha.
"Who found this?",I search it on Google and finally I learned it was Siehe Beutel.But how he found this?
We chosed Archimedes spiral: x²+y²=arc tan²(y/x)
we find that "tan x" is simillar to "x³",so we got
(x²+y²)³
y/x)²
we find heart isn't a symmetrical shape,so we change "y²" by "y³"
As x becomes larger,the difference between "tan x" and "x³" becomes larger,so we plus "x⁴"
Aha~just a joke ! Maybe following can be turth.
He used a simple ellipse "x²+y²-xy=1".
We transform it to "x²+y²-1
x|y".
NO ABS ! We get "(x²+y²-1)²=x²y²".
But now we lose the relation of that "x²+y²-1" is the same to "y" in "±" (I can't convey in proper way)
So we try the equation "(a²x²+b²y²-1)^(2k+m)=(by)^m*(abxy)^2k"
when a、b→1,there is the equation "
(x²+y²-1)^m=y^m"
So we have "|x|^m(x²+y²-1)/y)^m=1"
Compare plots of "x²+y²-xy=1" and "x²+y²-y=1",we find only when x∈[-1/2,1/2] their difference become obvious,so m→0.
We make m=1，so k→+∞.
By trying,due to the equation's interval,when k=1 we get such a beautiful plot : (x²+y²-1)³=x²y³
#23 2012-04-30 23:18:38
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Oh, that's funny ! Without blanks "= (" was transformed into negetive face!
I did use k instead of 5,but a known number looks better.
#24 2012-04-30 23:23:23
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(x+13+sqrt((x+4)^2+4)-2sqrt((x+8)^2+4))^2*(12x*y^2+x^3-11y^2+x^2+7x-4)^3+(8y^2+6x^2-16x+4)^3*y^4*(x+13)^2=0 where x=-15 to 5, guess what's in it?
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#25 2012-04-30 23:24:35
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Check this out:Some values of k
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“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón