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**Kryptonis****Member**- Registered: 2011-03-03
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I'm having a bit of a time with this. I have tried integration by parts and just can't seem to get it right....

∫(3-3x)/(sqrt(64-9x^2)) dx

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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Hi

Use the substitution u=8*sin(x)/3

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**Kryptonis****Member**- Registered: 2011-03-03
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Thanx a bunch, was totally going in the wrong direction on this

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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If there's anything else you don't understand,ask freely over here.

Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most. ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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hi brabenderjack

Welcome to the forum!

Speaking personally, I don't think there is a guaranteed way of doing integration. With differentiation, once you can do the basic functions (powers, trig, exp, log) and you can do product, quotient and chain rule, you can differentiate anything made up from these.

But there's no such approach for integration.

Sometimes it is 'obvious' that it is a certain function just by looking and remembering the rules for differentiation.

Sometimes it 'looks' like integration by parts may work.

If I see the presence of a function and its derivative then I know substitution will help.

Some other problems also 'yield' to substitution.

Beyond that, it's just trial and improvement for me.

Usually, for exams, the examiners only set ones that can be done by one of the above methods.

There are some fairly simple looking functions that won't give a 'nice' answer at all!

If I got one I could not do, I'd post it here!

Bob

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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Hi bob

here's one for you:

*Last edited by anonimnystefy (2012-03-30 22:53:03)*

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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hi Stefy

just a bit of 'light relief' before I go back to your sequence.

Bob

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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As i gathered from your LaTeX code that looks right,but there is a simpler form.

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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Latex corrected.

looking for a simplification.

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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How about

?

B

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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Where has e**x vanished?

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