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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hi,

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense" - Buddha?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.**

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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hi bobbym,

Glad you've picked up on this thread.

If you get time have a look at posts 30 to 45. Did we get this sorted?

Bob

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi Bob;

I see lots of gAr and you in here and that means I can do something else.

My friend poses 100 problems a second and rarely stops to look around. gAr is correct about the continued radical solving #2.

Which one got away from gAr and you?

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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hi Bobbym

post 30

with

Stefy wanted the general term.

gAr and I could give him the convergence, but don't think there will be a simple formula.

What do you think?

Bob

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi Bob;

There is nothing simple that I can find.

Except an error analysis produces this which is an asymptotic answer

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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hi bobbym,

Well that's quite a good result. I'm happy with that.

Thanks a lot.

Bob

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi bob bundy;

Your welcome.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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bobbym wrote:

Hi;

Why is it impossible?

gAr wrote:

Hi,

What is you GF?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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That is kind of easy to reason about. You need to think about that yourself. If you do not get it then you need some work in algebra, which is even more fundamental than calculus.

Post #81 shows the power of the new experimental mathematics.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Yes I saw #81.Nice work on that.

I will se why #5 is impossible.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Did you try it out before complimenting me? Could be wrong... How would you convince yourself that it might do what it claims?

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Hi bobbym

I checked the first few terms.How did you arrive at that formula? *please don't say CAS,please don't say Cas,...*

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

It is derived easily with some guessing and what I think I know about error analysis. This is not a mathematicians way of working. I told you and have shown you the tools necessary to do this kind of work. I have not yet convinced you over to my way but I have noticed that you are envious of the type of answers gAr is capable of.

When you are convinced we will go further. For now let's look at the empirical evidence.

Supposing you wanted to know as close as possible what the 200th term in your recurrence was.

Using the formula we get

The exact answer to 100 digits is:

Pretty good!

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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**#6)Find the generating function of the sequence:**

**and from the generating function deduce the general term.**

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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That is correct!Can I see your generating function?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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No, you may not.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Why not?Do you have one?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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It is possible to derive the GF. But that is not necessary here. There is a much better and shorter way.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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That method will not get what you require, because it is not the correct method to solve the problem.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Why not?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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You are getting ahead of yourself. Confusing yourself further, the answer lies in the other thread!

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Which other thread? There are so many of them!

You could get the generating function by forming a recurrence formula for the series and then finding the GF from there.

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