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You are not logged in. #1 2005-12-20 11:27:50
tricky problem Let f be the function defined by f(x) = x^3 - x^2 -4x + 4. The point (a,b) is on the graph of f, and the line tangent to the graph at (a,b) passes through the point (0, -8), which is not on the graph of f. Find a and b. A logarithm is just a misspelled algorithm. #2 2005-12-20 12:00:37
Re: tricky problemSorry, I can't think of anything. I thought I had something, but it turned out it was wrong. Then I thought I had another something, but that was wrong too. Why did the vector cross the road? It wanted to be normal. #3 2005-12-20 14:04:18
Re: tricky problemI guess its just a genuine badass problem. I'll give it another shot. Last edited by mikau (2005-12-20 14:05:15) A logarithm is just a misspelled algorithm. #4 2005-12-20 16:47:04
Re: tricky problem2x^3 - x^2 - 12 = 0 "In the real world, this would be a problem. But in mathematics, we can just define a place where this problem doesn't exist. So we'll go ahead and do that now..." #5 2005-12-20 17:20:30
Re: tricky problemYep yep. But like I said, it is not imediatly apparent that it can be factored into that form. If it was, then we could solve the problem right away. It leaves no remainder and thus is a zero of the expression or function when the factor equals 0. Last edited by mikau (2005-12-20 17:25:18) A logarithm is just a misspelled algorithm. #6 2005-12-20 22:31:21
Re: tricky problemWhat is the question coz i might able 2 do it????????????? #7 2005-12-20 22:37:44
Re: tricky problemUmmm ... the question is the bold bit at the top. "The physicists defer only to mathematicians, and the mathematicians defer only to God ..." - Leon M. Lederman #8 2005-12-20 23:44:38
Re: tricky problemWell, no one said math should be immediately apparent "In the real world, this would be a problem. But in mathematics, we can just define a place where this problem doesn't exist. So we'll go ahead and do that now..." #9 2005-12-21 09:59:57
Re: tricky problemIs there a method to finding the (x-2) factor of the cubic? Last edited by John E. Franklin (2005-12-21 10:54:29) Imagine for a moment that even an earthworm may possess a love of self and a love of others. #11 2005-12-21 13:19:37
Re: tricky problem"Or did Ricky divide by it because we had already known the root?" "In the real world, this would be a problem. But in mathematics, we can just define a place where this problem doesn't exist. So we'll go ahead and do that now..." #12 2005-12-21 21:21:18
Re: tricky problemSo it was basically trial and error, then. If it wasn't factorisable, you would have been there for quite a while. Why did the vector cross the road? It wanted to be normal. #14 2005-12-22 02:37:33
Re: tricky problem
Sort of. Since the coefficients are all low numbers, you know the factors have to be low as well. So you can just try all the low integer factors -5 to 5 and see if they work. If those don't, you can be reasonably sure the factors aren't integers. "In the real world, this would be a problem. But in mathematics, we can just define a place where this problem doesn't exist. So we'll go ahead and do that now..." |