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**Chemist****Member**- Registered: 2005-12-12
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Greetings mates,

If anyone can help me solve the following integral using the change of variable ჯ = cosმ

The ^ means to the power, so 2Cos^2მ is 2 multiplied by the squared of Cosმ ( just to avoid confusion ).

The given integral is:

I = ∫[(1+ჯ)/(1-ჯ)]^½dჯ

I already worked it out using other methods like taking t^2 = (1+ჯ)/(1-ჯ) and then solving in terms of t. I found out the solution. However, the method of change of variable using Cosმ is not working. For starters,

I = ∫[(1+cosმ)/(1-cosმ)]^½dcosმ = - ∫[(2Cos^2B)/(2Sin^2B)]^½ sinმdმ where B = მ/2

This implies, I = - ∫[1/|Tan^2B|] sinმdმ

--> I = - ∫ (sinმdმ / Tan^2B )

How to cotinue from here? I've tried many methods using integrations by parts, by nothing worked out.

Thanks in advance.

*Last edited by Chemist (2005-12-12 10:39:18)*

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**mathsyperson****Moderator**- Registered: 2005-06-22
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You're making things more complicated than they need to be.

Inside the integral, the expression is (1 + cosθ)(1 - cosθ).

Multiplying out gives 1 - cos²θ, which is identical to sin²θ.

So now you have ∫ √[sin²θ] dcosθ and the powers cancel out to give ∫ sinθ dcosθ. Usually, when you are told to integrate by substitution, the reason is that the expression can be broken down into something nice and simple.

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**Chemist****Member**- Registered: 2005-12-12
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Hello mathsyperson ,

thank you for your help, but you obviously didnt notice the / ( division ). The exp is (1 + cosθ) / (1 - cosθ). This is why I changed it to TanB/2

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**mathsyperson****Moderator**- Registered: 2005-06-22
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Oh, I hate it when I do stupid things like that. It is past midnight, though, so I have a bit of an excuse.

In that case, I'd turn it into 1 + (2cosθ) / (1-cosθ), because I think there's an identity that can simplify that. Maybe there isn't, but it certainly looks familiar from somewhere.

Why did the vector cross the road?

It wanted to be normal.

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**Chemist****Member**- Registered: 2005-12-12
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No problem mate, I'll try out different methods. Thanks anyway.

"Fundamentally one will never be able to renounce abstraction."

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**Flowers4Carlos****Member**- Registered: 2005-08-25
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hi yaz chemist!!

(1+x)^(1/2)

∫---------------dx and you are trying to solve this integral using x=cosθ ⇒ dx=-sinθdθ

(1-x)^(1/2)

(-sinθ)(1+cosθ)^(1/2)

∫-------------------------dθ multiply everything by (1+cosθ)^(1/2)

(1-cosθ)^(1/2)

(-sinθ)(1+cosθ)^(1/2)*(1+cosθ)^(1/2)

∫--------------------------------------------dθ

(1-cosθ)^(1/2)*(1+cosθ)^(1/2)

(-sinθ)(1+cosθ)

∫--------------------------dθ

(1-cos²θ)^(1/2)

(-sinθ)(1+cosθ)

∫------------------dθ

sinθ

i guess you can take it from here!! i may have done something wrong so please √√

*Last edited by Flowers4Carlos (2005-12-12 19:49:56)*

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**Chemist****Member**- Registered: 2005-12-12
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Greetings Flowers4Carlos,

Thank you for your help. I believe there's no mistake in your calculation, which is pretty good and simple. I shall double check the answer anyhow, thanks again.

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**MathsIsFun****Administrator**- Registered: 2005-01-21
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