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#476 2012-02-27 03:28:31

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Hi;

How about using what you know about the growth of functions?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#477 2012-02-27 03:45:07

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Hi bobbym

I thought of asymptotic analysis as well, but I'm not sure how to use out properly.


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
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“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#478 2012-02-27 03:49:34

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Doesn't x^x^x grow faster than e^x^x when x > e?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#479 2012-02-27 04:25:31

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Hi bobbym
Well it does, but how do I formally show that? Or is that not necessary?


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#480 2012-02-27 04:36:38

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We are not looking for a formal idea here just a good solid reason why it might be so.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#481 2012-02-27 04:41:53

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Oh, ok then.next limit?


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#482 2012-02-27 04:44:37

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Also, do you really need a formal prove utilizing the sandwich theorem from topology to see that x^x^x grows faster than e^x^x?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#483 2012-02-27 04:47:42

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No, thank you smile

Next one?


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#484 2012-02-27 04:59:00

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Yep, you are right. That question stretches the limits of this thread. I have removed it and banned the poster.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#485 2012-02-27 05:05:05

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Hi bobbym

Could you delete my reply to that post as well?

Next problem?


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#486 2012-02-27 05:13:05

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Hi;

I have done what you requested. I will need some tiime to make one up.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#487 2012-02-27 05:22:11

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Hi bobbym

Ok thanks.

You think of those problems? Why don't you just find some online?


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#488 2012-02-27 05:30:30

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In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#489 2012-02-27 05:41:20

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Hi bobbym


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#490 2012-02-27 05:45:55

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That is correct! Very good. I think you know how to do a limit.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#491 2012-02-27 05:49:16

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Hi bobbym

Why wouldn't I know? Didn't I do limits before?


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#492 2012-02-27 05:59:11

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If you know and I know you know and you know that I know you know how, then why do you need anymore?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#493 2012-02-27 06:13:56

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Hi bobbym

Well why don't you give some harder?

Btw, I need help with this:

Given the function f(x)=



Find the real numbers a and b such that

f(x)=lxl*(a+b/x+o(1/x))

As x goes to infinity.

Last edited by anonimnystefy (2012-02-27 06:16:25)


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#494 2012-02-27 06:17:42

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Well why don't you give some harder?

Cause then you would not be able to do them or I would not. What sense does that make?

Take and post that in help me in a new topic. Someone will help you with it.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#495 2012-02-27 06:24:49

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Hi bobbym

You don't have to go overboard with the difficulty level. Choose some not so tough, but tough enough to represent a challenge.


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#496 2012-02-27 06:26:25

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Uh, have you read the first post in this thread?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#497 2012-02-27 06:45:28

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Yes I have , but that one has already been solved!


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#498 2012-02-27 06:52:57

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No, I meant this is gAr's thread and not mine. Here he poses the problems, not me. Also, I am totally out of ideas.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#499 2012-02-27 07:00:42

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Hi bobbym

That sound just like a poor excuse. gAr didn't mind you posing problems here so far, I think he wouldn't mind now, but of you don't have ideas them you should just say so!


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#500 2012-02-27 07:18:51

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I did. Questions are difficult to pose, even harder than solving them. I have some questions for the other thread. And my point is your knowledge of limits is fine.

I have some problems for the other thread on asymptotics. Anyway, gAr is posting better problems.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

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