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#1551 2012-02-08 06:42:18

anonimnystefy
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Re: What do you think?

ye,gAr.see ya.


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#1552 2012-02-08 07:00:29

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Re: What do you think?

Hi gAr;

I completed the problem. I think you will like the solution.


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#1553 2012-02-08 16:15:28

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Re: What do you think?

Hi bobbym,

Yes, I'd like to see the solution!


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1554 2012-02-08 16:57:54

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Re: What do you think?

Hi gAr;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#1555 2012-02-08 18:34:06

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Re: What do you think?

Hi bobbym,

Last edited by gAr (2012-02-08 18:36:16)


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1556 2012-02-08 21:51:53

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Re: What do you think?

Hi gAr;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#1557 2012-02-08 23:11:18

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Re: What do you think?

Hi bobbym,


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1558 2012-02-08 23:15:32

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Re: What do you think?

Hi gAr;

Thanks! What edition do you have? I got the matrix method to work!


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#1559 2012-02-08 23:20:23

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Re: What do you think?

Hi,

It's third edition.
That's nice! How's the matrix form, can we get asymptotic form directly?


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1560 2012-02-08 23:24:00

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Re: What do you think?

Hi;

I do not think so it just gets a formula for x(n) in a slightly simpler form.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#1561 2012-02-08 23:26:33

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Re: What do you think?

Okay.
Maybe complex analysis is the only way to deal with asymptotics.


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1562 2012-02-08 23:27:58

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There are methods like Darboux but I never could understand it. I use complex analysis.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#1563 2012-02-08 23:36:37

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Okay, I think g.fs are good enough to deal with it.


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1564 2012-02-08 23:41:34

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Re: What do you think?

Hi gAr;

I forgot to mention. Very good work! You solved the problem.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#1565 2012-02-08 23:43:43

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Re: What do you think?

Hi bobbym,

Thanks!
I found a thesis which deals with asymptotics, looks interesting: http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/su … 1.131.2041


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1566 2012-02-08 23:50:56

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Hi gAr;

Thanks. What do you think of Feller's books?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#1567 2012-02-09 00:09:12

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Re: What do you think?

Hi,

The Feller's books are good.


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1568 2012-02-09 00:11:57

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Hi;

I like them too. There is information in them that you can not find anywhere else.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#1569 2012-02-09 00:25:59

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Re: What do you think?

Hi bobbym,

Yes, there's a lot of information in it.

What you suggest is right, thanks. But the recurrence in that post is also correct, I think. See you later.

Last edited by gAr (2012-02-09 00:28:32)


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1570 2012-02-09 02:50:19

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Re: What do you think?

Hi gAr;

The recurrence in post #1543?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#1571 2012-02-09 03:50:52

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Re: What do you think?

Hi bobbym,

Now I understand, you were writing the recurrence from the g.f. I thought that was a correction!
See you a bit later.


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1572 2012-02-09 03:56:04

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Re: What do you think?

Hi gAr;

Okay, see you later and thanks for working on the problem.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#1573 2012-02-25 22:05:38

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Re: What do you think?

New problem:

A biased coin is to be flipped a certain number of times. The probability of heads is .4 If the coin is repeatedly flipped what is the probability of 15 heads in a row before 15 tails in a row occur?

A says) (.4)^15 * (.6)^15
B says) That is not right I am getting .003412
C says) All the way with A, baby!
D says) A is the man!
E says) A is incorrect.

What is the correct answer?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#1574 2012-02-26 04:02:52

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Re: What do you think?

Hi bobbym

I think that this isn't correct, but I just thought that I should share what I got just so I could find out what I did wrong. smile


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.

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#1575 2012-02-26 04:27:00

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Re: What do you think?

Hi anonimnystefy;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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