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#1 2009-08-11 14:03:06

bossk171
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Volume of a Ring

I've gone over this a few times and I'm getting the same answer ever time. I don't believe my answer.

Consider a semi circle with radius "r" centered about the y axis and distance "k" from the origin. Put another way, consider the region enclosed by the curves:

and

Now rotate this region around the x-axis and you'll end up with a ring. What is the volume of this ring?

The answer I'm getting is

Which is ridiculous, not only is it independent of the distance "k" from the x axis (the radius of the ring hole), but it's the equation of the volume of a sphere.


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#2 2009-08-11 18:49:20

juriguen
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Registered: 2009-07-05
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Re: Volume of a Ring

Hi!


First of all, I think your equations do not define a ring, but a sphere... At least you write nothing about being a hole centered at k and of any radius.

Anyway, the following website has the solution and, apparently, you got close to the solution!
http://plus.maths.org/issue1/puzzle/index.html


Hope it helps
Jose


“Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler.” -- Albert Einstein

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#3 2009-08-12 00:36:03

mathsyperson
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Re: Volume of a Ring

Are you describing a torus?


Why did the vector cross the road?
It wanted to be normal.

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#4 2009-08-12 10:00:17

bossk171
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Re: Volume of a Ring

No, I'm not defining a torus. A torus is a circle rotated around an axis, this is a semi circle rotated around an axis. It's close to a torus, but with a cylindrical whole.

Juriguen, that problem is similar to mine, but not the same. for your problem, there is a sphere with a cylindrical hole cut into it. Mine is not spherical.


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#5 2009-08-15 16:09:04

Fruityloop
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Re: Volume of a Ring

I am not 100% sure of myself but after a rather lengthy process I got...


I used volume by slicing using
as the radius of the disks and then subtracting out the middle cylinder which has a radius of k and a height of 2r.

Last edited by Fruityloop (2009-08-15 16:11:28)

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#6 2011-08-09 00:10:36

Fruityloop
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Re: Volume of a Ring

I got the same answer by a different method. I first calculated the centroid of a semi-circle of radius r centered on the y-axis.
the x-coordinate of the centroid will be zero, so we just need to calculate the y-coordinate...


which comes out to be
now we need to divide by the area so...

so the centroid is located at

The volume is equal to the area multiplied by the distance traveled by the centroid. So we have..

Last edited by Fruityloop (2011-08-09 00:11:53)

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