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#26 2011-07-25 01:36:50

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Re: Exponential integral

Hi;

Have you asked sage what that product is, just to see?


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#27 2011-07-25 01:48:19

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Re: Exponential integral

Sage supports product only for a list of numbers, not infinite product, I guess.

But I tested it in wolfram, the product is correct.

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#28 2011-07-25 01:53:05

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Hi gAr;

Did you get


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#29 2011-07-25 01:59:38

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Re: Exponential integral

Hi,

Yes.

The form it showed is:

It had gamma functions in the partial product formula.


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#30 2011-07-25 02:39:16

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Hi gAr;

I am not getting anywhere with that product.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
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#31 2011-07-25 03:02:35

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Hi bobbym,

Okay.
Anyway, I could get somewhere with that integral!
It's explained in Richard courant's book, "Differential and integral calculus" vol II


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#32 2011-07-25 03:22:15

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Hi gAr;

Very good! Thanks for providing that.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
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#33 2011-07-25 04:07:40

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You're welcome!


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#34 2011-07-25 18:01:06

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I finally finished the D Knuth video without interruption. It was very enjoyable.


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I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
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#35 2011-07-25 18:03:57

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Re: Exponential integral

Hi,

So, the full problem was to evaluate:

and the

Hi bobbym,

Yes, I too enjoyed the video!

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#36 2011-07-25 18:11:34

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Hi gAr;

Did you submit the solution to that page yet?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#37 2011-07-25 18:16:18

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Hi bobbym,

No, I didn't.
Did he solve it, and didn't post the solution because it isn't published yet?


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#38 2011-07-25 18:23:48

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Hi gAr;

I do not know. I did not find a solution to that problem anywhere on the net. Yours might be unique.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#39 2011-07-25 18:29:00

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Hmmm, okay.

The first problem that I have solved from the monthly!
Anyway, since it isn't free, we may not find it on the net.


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#40 2011-07-25 18:31:31

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Re: Exponential integral

Hi gAr;

Sometimes you can. That crazy integral was on the internet. That is where I got his pdf.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#41 2011-07-25 18:35:06

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Re: Exponential integral

Hi,

That's true.

But it's very difficult to search for equations, since mathematical operatos are ignored or have a different meaning for the search engines.


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#42 2011-07-25 18:36:44

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Hi gAr;

Search by the AM number, each problem has one.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#43 2011-07-25 18:39:42

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Re: Exponential integral

Hi,

Yes, for this case we can search something.
I'm telling in general, where we know only the equation or integral etc.

I'll take a short break, see you later.


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#44 2011-07-25 18:42:21

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That is generally true it is very hard to get Google to understand.

See you soon.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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