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#126 2010-12-17 18:29:04

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Re: Sin, Cos, and Tan

oh woops lemme find x for fun big_smile so x = 17320.50808 big_smile


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#127 2010-12-17 18:32:22

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Re: Sin, Cos, and Tan

well gtg now for today bye


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#128 2010-12-17 18:35:51

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Re: Sin, Cos, and Tan

Okay, see you tomorrow.


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#129 2010-12-18 06:20:53

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Re: Sin, Cos, and Tan

ok im back big_smile yay big_smile


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#130 2010-12-18 10:12:50

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The biggest slide in the world drops 213 meters in a horizontal distance of 1200 meters.

a) How long is that slide?

b) What is its angle of inclination?


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#131 2010-12-18 10:43:32

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so im gonna do (b) first and so im gonna use TOA because i know the adj and opp and im trying to find the angle so the formula for tan is Opp/Adj = Tan(x) so to replace the vars it would be 213/1200 =  Tan(x) now i figure out what the tan of x equals and it would be 0.1775 so now i click Tan-¹ which equals 10.06 so the x angle equals 10.06°(not rounded) now to (a)

So im gonna use the formula that bob bundy gave me Adj/Cos(angle) = Hyp so replace the vars and i get 1200/Cos(10.06) = Hyp so the hypotenuse equals 1218.75m big_smile

am i right?


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#132 2010-12-18 10:56:06

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Hi;

Yes that is correct, except for your rounding. If you are truncating to 2 digits after the decimal that is fine. If I asked you to round to 2 digits after the decimal what would you get?


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#133 2010-12-18 11:12:01

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Re: Sin, Cos, and Tan

huh 2 digits after the decimal? um for a or b for a it would be 1200m right?


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#134 2010-12-18 11:15:23

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No for your answer, the angle and the length of the slide.


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#135 2010-12-18 11:17:46

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Re: Sin, Cos, and Tan

huh so like round to the 10 place? plz can you tell me in a diffrent form like which significant numbers you want?


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#136 2010-12-18 11:22:50

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Re: Sin, Cos, and Tan

Hi;

I am not making it clear. Round these to 2 places after the decimal.

10.06516° and 1218.75715 meters.


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#137 2010-12-18 11:24:42

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Re: Sin, Cos, and Tan

ook so that would be the answer how is that 2 digits from the decimal?


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#138 2010-12-18 11:26:47

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I would like you to round those 2 numbers to 2 places after the decimal point.


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#139 2010-12-18 11:28:12

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kk but that is rounding 5 decimal places


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#140 2010-12-18 11:31:01

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That is not important, they were actually truncated instead of rounded and we are going to go over both types and a guy named Pythagoras.


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#141 2010-12-18 11:47:29

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ok go ahead and i dont know what truncated means?


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#142 2010-12-18 11:52:56

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Re: Sin, Cos, and Tan

Hi Aartt, to truncate something is literally to shorten, or to cut off. So, if you truncate a decimal, e.g. 0.7456464, you simply shorten it, without regard to rounding, i.e. 0.745 would be a truncation of that decimal.

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#143 2010-12-18 11:54:40

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Re: Sin, Cos, and Tan

10.06516° and 1218.75715 meters.

To truncate 10.06516° to 2 places after the decimal ( always referring to digits on the right of the decimal point ). You just drop everything after the second digit.

To round to 2 places after the decimal. You look at the next digit. 5 or more go up, 4 or less go down.

I did not see Au101's answer which is correct. Now you can do the 1218.75715 meters by yourself.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
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#144 2010-12-18 11:56:43

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oh so i shouldnt have truncated?


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#145 2010-12-18 11:59:45

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Different point, you are remembering the other problem. Forget it for right now and try to work on the new one. You have a number to truncate and round. 2 posts have given you the means.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
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#146 2010-12-18 12:44:41

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Re: Sin, Cos, and Tan

what new one?


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#147 2010-12-18 12:47:55

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Re: Sin, Cos, and Tan

Please round to 2 places after the decimal point.

1218.75715 meters.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#148 2010-12-18 15:16:29

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Re: Sin, Cos, and Tan

hi Aartt,

Sorry I've not contributed to this thread for a while.  I was out for a whole day and then, when I looked, you seems to be progressing well with your trig. 

Now you seem to be hung up on rounding off.

So, maybe a little lesson in that will help.

I'm going to look at the decimal number 1.817

Here's a picture that shows where it is on the number line.

decimal1.GIF

Firstly, the gap between 1 and 2 is divided into tenths.  Our number is over 1.8 but under 1.9

Then, the diagram is magnified by x 10 so you can see the hundredths.

Our number is between 1.81 and 1.82

Then the diagram is magnified by x 10 again to show the thousandths.

Our number can now be shown exactly as 1 unit, 1 tenth, 8 hundredths and 7 thousandths.

Now for the rounding off.

decimal2.GIF

If you truncate the number you just chop off unwanted digits so you'd get 1.81

But the diagram shows that 1.817 is nearer to 1.82 so this is the correct thing to write if you are rounding.

I've seen you write the rule for this in post 99

because the digit behind it is greater than 4 so you up the number in front of it by one

But why this rule?

Because you're looking to see which way is nearer;
4 and below means 'to the left' is nearer;  this is ROUNDING DOWN
above 4 means 'to the right is nearer;  this is ROUNDING UP.

There are many ways to ask someone to round off:

Give answer to 2 decimal places
Give answer to 3 significant figures
Round to the nearest whole number
etc etc.

Does that help?

Footnote.  It's 3.16am, here in England.  I woke up and couldn't sleep so I thought I'd have a look at MIF.

I think there's a big time difference between us, which is why you sometimes post and then wonder why there's no reply for a while.  Tell me what your screen says for the time I posted this and we can work out the time zone difference.
Bob

Last edited by Bob (2010-12-18 15:24:37)


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#149 2010-12-18 16:04:43

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Re: Sin, Cos, and Tan

well i it dosent tell the right time for me on the forum but i live in washinton and right now its about 8 pm and whats MIF?

Last edited by Aartt (2010-12-18 16:05:24)


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#150 2010-12-18 17:20:56

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MathsIsFun!

Is that Washington D.C.?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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