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You are not logged in. #1 2010-11-29 02:43:33
Interpolation - Fitting specific curvesThank you in advance to any who offer their knowledge to my aid. the result will be the function where the derivative of f(75) is exactly 1 and all derivatives on the interval x=[0,75] have a reciprocal set on x=[75,100]. My difficult problem is this: I need to fit a curve that is the above function f on the interval of x=[0,75] and then is the inverse of f on the interval [75,150] such that the domain of the function (in so far as we are concerned with) is [0,150], the range is [0,50], the derivative at x=75 is still 1 and all derivatives from opposite directions and toward x=75 are equal. That is, the derivative of this new function at x=0 is 1/9 and the derivative of this new function at x=150 is 1/9 and all derivatives from the two end points toward the middle at x=75 are also equal. That may be confusing and so, to restate it, the function f, above, is the portion of a new function (say, h(x)) on its own interval x=[0,75] and at that point, where the derivative of the function is 1, the function needs to transition into its own inverse at the same point. The inverse of the function f, dislocated so as to connect to the function at the point of x=75, is and the desired new function is, as stated, f on the interval from 0 to 75 and then its "dislocated" inverse on its interval from x=75 to x=150. The complex problems arise right from the start when the first thing you try is to fit the points which is a linear line. I would provide you all with graphic representation to make clearer the objective but I do not have anywhere to host such a picture at this time. Plotting the function and its inverse and on said boundaries in Maple and using the multiplot feature display(p1,p2,etc) will show the desired curve. I have no idea if this is something that has an easy solution or not. I am more than willing to learn new things in order to carry it out, however, and I welcome any and all advice. So far all I have managed to do is fit curves that are imperfect... and I am frustrated. Thank you for your time. #2 2010-11-29 07:28:03
Re: Interpolation - Fitting specific curvesHi Reuel;
To digress for a bit!
Can I ask what you are trying to accomplish by using Thiele's Interpolation to begin with? If you can answer that you certainly are not ignorant or amateurish at all. Also you use Maple which places you ahead of lots of mathematicians.
Well goody for you Andy! Read Paul Nahins or Doron Zeilberger books to get idea about what I mean, what I am saying...
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. 90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics. I am willing to wager that over 75% of the new words that appeared were nothing more than spelling errors that caught on. #3 2010-12-12 03:43:21
Re: Interpolation - Fitting specific curvesbobbym,
Seeing as I have already performed an application of it, it should be fairly obvious "what I am trying to accomplish".
My calculus class in junior college just happens to use Maple. It doesn't affect my amateurish status for good or not. Does it matter? #5 2010-12-12 12:16:48
Re: Interpolation - Fitting specific curvesHi Reuel; In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. 90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics. I am willing to wager that over 75% of the new words that appeared were nothing more than spelling errors that caught on. #6 2010-12-12 12:52:32
Re: Interpolation - Fitting specific curvesCorrect - h(x), the unknown blue curve, is a piecewise function of f(x) from 0 to 75 and g(x) from 75 to 150. The ultimate goal is to fit a single curve defined by a single function. #7 2010-12-12 13:05:08
Re: Interpolation - Fitting specific curvesHi Reuel; In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. 90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics. I am willing to wager that over 75% of the new words that appeared were nothing more than spelling errors that caught on. #9 2010-12-12 14:00:36
Re: Interpolation - Fitting specific curvesHi; In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. 90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics. I am willing to wager that over 75% of the new words that appeared were nothing more than spelling errors that caught on. #10 2010-12-12 14:11:34
Re: Interpolation - Fitting specific curvesExactly. A piecewise made into a single function h(x) or whatever we were calling it. #11 2010-12-12 14:12:36
Re: Interpolation - Fitting specific curvesOkay, extremely closely? How big is the error you can stand? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. 90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics. I am willing to wager that over 75% of the new words that appeared were nothing more than spelling errors that caught on. #13 2010-12-12 14:20:46
Re: Interpolation - Fitting specific curvesWith Maple you can plot a couple of points more along the curve than just the three linear points, as I said, I was trying out the mean values and quarter and three-quarter lengths of the arcs, but the resultant curves were really bad. I figured I could either fit a ton of points or try to figure something else out more logical. #14 2010-12-12 14:30:23
Re: Interpolation - Fitting specific curvesOkay, but remember, that is why they invented piecewise functions and splines. Because it was often impossible to fit one curve through some set of ordered pairs. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. 90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics. I am willing to wager that over 75% of the new words that appeared were nothing more than spelling errors that caught on. #16 2010-12-12 16:27:28
Re: Interpolation - Fitting specific curvesI will do what I can but it may take a while. Please be patient. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. 90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics. I am willing to wager that over 75% of the new words that appeared were nothing more than spelling errors that caught on. |