Cicero wrote:

The wise man therefore always holds in these matters to this principle of selection: he rejects pleasures to secure other greater pleasures, or else he endures pains to avoid worse pains.

That quote is part of what the publishers latin is derived from.

What is good or bad about it?

It looks larger, gives the illusion of more space. I like it but it somehow looks like something is left out...

Do you like the clouds on the side or are they too "pretty"?

The clouds contribute to the above observation about more space.

It is showing fine on my browser and I use uncommon font sizes and video display settings.

Hi MIF

Less has advantages too.

bob bundy wrote:

I liked the central pictures and links to the various bits of the site in the original.

So you don't like this one?

Is it because of no sidebar links?

How could I make it more child friendly (apart from less Latin ) ?

I definitely will, but the top and sides will change.

Hi MathsisFun;

Go with the new one but I do prefer the search in the upper left.
Maybe you can go away from the only children aspect.
Take the algebra link, ends in college algebra.
I mean I refer to the pages often and direct adults to them. Adults play games and need math help too.

Hi MathsIsFun;

On my browser the search input box covers part of the geometric figure. Might be browser specific, I use firefox. It is a nice figure can you move it to the left about an inch.

Hi bob and MIF can listen also;

It didn't stop me and I'm ancient!

I am glad it did not. But you are implying that there is something to stop people.
Some adults are going to look at that front page with the 5 kids and think  this is for kids, it is too basic, I do no belong here.
I say remove the impediment, make it for adults and children. The old photo I thought was better because it was more serious.

The question we have to ask is, does pictures of kids attract kids? Unless it is the Olsen twins or the Jones brothers I would say no.

I did not recommend taking any pictures down, what I did recommend is portraying the site as for adults too.  I do no want adults to feel that the information here is not serious, that it is sort of a childs toy. That is the image I think should be upgraded. The site is not just for children.

I send posters to the MathsisFun pages as often as I think necessary even from other forums. I do this because I think the pages are a serious piece of work. That the poster has a lot to learn from them. Most of these are adults. If it were me I would rather they saw something other than just preteens on the front page.

Hi bob and MIF;

Everyone's opinion is being considered ...

Yep, I forgot to preface post #14 with the words in my opinion. You are in the unenviable spot of having to consider everyone's feelings. Remember and this is a tired cliche, you cannot satisfy everybody. Site has almost 80 000 members and that is a good argument against any redesign at all.

I am wondering if you can think of something better than the geometric figure to decorate the header?

Nope, I cannot. When I see it, it makes me want to do group theory. So it must be powerful. How about having it rotate, page does seem to need some motion, the overhead might be high though.

Hi,

I accept bobbym's point about adults.  But we could still have a cartoon image.  How about something like the one below?

Face came from http://www.pdclipart.org/thumbnails.php so it should be useable. Would need some work to make it acceptable on the page I think.

Bob

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Thanks Rora, always lovely to hear from you ... brings back good memories

Bob: I like the thought bubble

Bobby: Who is he? He is my best excuse when my hair needs brushing ...

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Ohh, I really like that too, that's a great idea Bob =] Everyone will recognise him and get the idea even without the bubble - I do like the bubble, by the way. Although I have to say I don't know who he is either. He looks clever though!



Rod: I actually seen Mr. T somewhere - a magazine I think it was - and it just made me remember here... the memories

I'm on a
Brand new
Pandigital
tablet, and
I can see
the Latin
but not the
clouds. 
Sure is slow
typing on a
touchscreen!