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**elliot60****Member**- Registered: 2010-08-14
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hi.. i am new in this forum. Glad there is for math lovers like me...

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi elliot60;

Welcome to the forum!

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.**

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**Fruityloop****Member**- Registered: 2009-05-18
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Hello elliot60,

Welcome to the math forum!

The eclipses from Algol (an eclipsing binary star) come further apart in time when the Earth is moving away from Algol and closer together in time when the Earth is moving towards Algol, thereby proving that the speed of light is variable and that Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity is wrong.

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**ganesh****Moderator**- Registered: 2005-06-28
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Hi elliot60,

Welcome to the forum!

Character is who you are when no one is looking.

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**John E. Franklin****Member**- Registered: 2005-08-29
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Thanks for joining the forum!!

Ask an easy question.

There's too many hard ones for me.

**igloo** **myrtilles** **fourmis**

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Are there really any easy ones?

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.**

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**John E. Franklin****Member**- Registered: 2005-08-29
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Oh yes!! Anything is easy if you can figure it out

with the knowledge and creativity you have at the time,

and patience, and paper helps. You could draw in

the sand, but the letters have to be very large.

**igloo** **myrtilles** **fourmis**

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi John;

How about if you figure it out and then someone shows a much simpler way of doing it. Or a way that gets a much simpler answer. Suddenly the simple problem that had a nice easy solution has become very complicated. It was only simple because we viewed it in a simple way.

A problem was just showed to me yesterday, so I solved it thinking this is simplest way to solve this, Then ganesh comes along and does the problem in a slightly more complex way but ends up with a much nicer solution. A much simpler solution. A smaller solution. If we view easy as a math term, we need to define what easy means.

Some of the things you work and solve don't particularly appear easy to me. But by your definition they are easy for you. We would need to define easy in some way that everyone could agree upon. A way that was intuitively obvious and made sense. Like an axiom. I don't think such a thing exists.

For the sake of the posts I know you are speaking of what is easy for you. And I hope you get your wish, because there must be some overlap between what is easy for you and what is easy for me.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.**

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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hi everyone and elliot60 especially,

If it's easy there's no satisfaction in doing the problem ... and if it's too hard, then it's upsetting to be unable to do it.

So for me the optimum problem is hard (for me) but just at the limit of what I can do. Is this a good philosophy for life?

Bob

You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him find it within himself..........Galileo Galilei

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