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#2 2009-04-26 04:22:30
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Why do you want to learn incorrect proofs? Much better if you just concentrate on learning correct proofs. That might help you pass your exams.
#4 2009-04-26 17:17:53
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Hi dreamalot;
I'm afraid Jane is right about learning correct proofs but if you are determined to see this, here is a link that I know of.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_proof
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#5 2009-06-12 20:48:52
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That's the first false proof I've found the fault in 
Division by 0.. (a-b), where a=b
#6 2009-06-13 21:03:28
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Here is another “proof” that 1 = 2, one that doesn’t make use of division by 0.
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#7 2009-06-14 02:05:24
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Hi Jane;
I know you are not posing this as a problem but
Line 1 identity
Line 2 identity
As near as I can figure the problem is with the third statement, the taking of the square root of both sides.
which is only true for
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In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#11 2009-08-04 17:32:58
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Hi amhore;
Jane wrote:
Why do you want to learn incorrect proofs? Much better if you just concentrate on learning correct proofs. That might help you pass your exams.
She is still right.
About half way down the page.
click me for false proofs
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In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#13 2009-08-05 03:35:15
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Welcome manzil
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#16 2010-07-20 05:31:04
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Hi santhosh;
JaneFairfax wrote:
Jane wrote:
Why do you want to learn incorrect proofs? Much better if you just concentrate on learning correct proofs. That might help you pass your exams.
She is still right.
She is even more correct!
Welcome to the forum!
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#17 2010-08-07 06:19:29
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Hi,
we have not 1=2, except if units are e.g. $ and £ in the year (to find, e.g. in the y 1976, or 1978 http://www.miketodd.net/encyc/dollhist.htm)...1£=2$ were at some time of the story of humanity.
but we were allowed to write
2 is equivalent to 0 (modulo 2)
divide by 2 and
1 is equivalent to 0 (modulo 1).
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#18 2010-08-07 07:03:55
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Actually, I don't think there's any harm studying 'false' proofs as long as you're aware that there is something wrong with the proof.
That way you learn something about what is allowable in a proof and what isn't.
In the example that started this thread, for example, you should learn that dividing by zero is not acceptable in algebra.
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#20 2011-05-07 04:07:33
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plz help me 2 find out the wrong step:all digits are equal just putting values of x,y
s1) -x.y=-x.y
s2) x^2-x(x+y)=y^2-y(x+y)
s3) x^2-2x(x+y)/2+{(x+y)/2}^2 = y^2-2y(x+y)/2+{(x+y)/2}^2
s4) {x-(x+y)/2}^2 = {y-(x+y)/2}^2
s5) x-(x+y)/2 = y-(x+y)/2
s6) x=y
#21 2011-05-07 04:39:21
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hi sur_arijit01
It looks to me like S4 -> S5 is the faulty step.
Just because a^2 = b^2 you may not conclude that a = b eg. 9 = 9 but + 3 is not equal to -3
But if you write
s5) x-(x+y)/2 = -(y-(x+y)/2)
then you get x + y = x + y which seems more reasonable.
Bob
footnote: When I'm trying to track down an algebraic error the following sometimes works.
Choose a value for x and another for y. (Best to avoid 0 and 1 here)
If the value of the LHS = RHS then there's a strong chance the steps to that point are OK.
When LHS not = RHS you know a false step has occurred.
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#22 2011-06-20 01:54:29
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You can proof substitution with number, no need to let x=y.
10² = 100 (right)
10²-10²=100-100
(10-10)(10+10)=10(10-10)
So,
(10+10)=10
20=10
2=1
#23 2011-06-20 02:35:39
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Hi joker30;
Welcome to the forum!
That is a little bit of a twist!
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#24 2011-06-20 02:58:43
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hi joker30
OK, but it's still a case of:
in post #18, I wrote:
In the example that started this thread, for example, you should learn that dividing by zero is not acceptable in algebra.
except substitute 'number calculations' for 'algebra'.
Bob
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#25 2011-06-20 04:15:59
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ganesh wrote:
Here is another:-
But this proves 2 > 3.
3 < 2
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