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#1 2010-02-10 04:50:58

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derivative and average rate of change

If  , rate of change of this function =-3/4 at x=4 , and the average rate of change =-5/6 when x changes from 4 to 3.8 ,
FIND the values of a and b.
THNX in advance

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#2 2010-02-10 15:15:25

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Re: derivative and average rate of change

Hi Avva;

A question. I usually see f(x) = a / (x + b), when I see F(x) that usually means F(x) = ∫ f(x) dx = a / (x + b). What do you think?


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#3 2010-02-11 09:29:18

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Re: derivative and average rate of change

Actually I didn't study it that way am in high school so we learn only headlines Thnx 4 ur help

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#4 2010-02-11 15:45:37

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Re: derivative and average rate of change

Hi Avva;

Okay, just wanted to know whether I should differentiate once or twice. I'll chance one because it is easier.

The instantaneous rate of change of a function is the derivative. So:

Now the rate of change of this function = -3 / 4 at x = 4: So substituting x = 4

In order to uniquely determine the parameters a and b we need 2 equations to solve simultaneously. I gave you one, can you get the second one? Hint, use the average rate of change.


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#5 2010-02-11 17:22:19

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Re: derivative and average rate of change

sorry for bothering you I just wanna know which solution is right MANYYYY Thnx

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#6 2010-02-11 18:34:31

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Re: derivative and average rate of change

Hi Avva

Are the 2 equations. The roots are a = 3 and b = -2.

b = -4 does not work. Can you tell me why?


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#7 2010-02-11 20:25:26

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Re: derivative and average rate of change

when I substitute with -4 in rate of change and average rate of change it didn't give me the given values
but with -2 it did Is this the right reason???

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#8 2010-02-11 20:38:17

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Re: derivative and average rate of change

Hi Avva;

Yes, but look at what happens when you substitute b = -4 in either equation. You get zero in the denominator. Division by zero is undefined so you can stop right there.


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#9 2010-02-11 21:07:34

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Re: derivative and average rate of change

many thnx highly appreciated smile

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#10 2010-02-11 21:09:01

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Re: derivative and average rate of change

Hi Avva;

Glad to help.


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