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You are not logged in. #1 2010-01-19 07:26:17
A silly prime number method.Objective: Find prime numbers below 100, and the First just list the solely 2-factors: (2) 4 8 16 32 64 128 The next # is 3, and is prime since it is not above in list. One 3-factor and zero-plus 2-factors: (3) 6 12 24 48 96 192 Two 3-factors and zero-plus 2-factors: 9 18 36 72 144 Three 3-factors and zero-plus 2-factors: 27 54 108 Four 3-factors and zero-plus 2-factors: 81 162 Next #4 is in list above, not prime, it is 4 = 2 times 2. Next #5 is prime, not listed above. One 5-factor and no 3-factors and zero-plus 2-factors: (5) 10 20 40 80 160 One 5-factor and one 3-factor and zero-plus 2-factors: 15 30 60 120 One 5-factor and two 3-factors and zero-plus 2-factors: 45 90 180 One 5-factor and three 3-factors and zero-plus 2-factors: 135 270 Two 5-factors and no 3-factors and zero-plus 2-factors: 25 50 100 200 Two 5-factors and one 3-factor and zero-plus 2-factors: 75 150 Two 5-factors and two 3-factors and zero-plus 2-factors: 225 450 Three 5-factors and and no 3-factors and zero-plus 2-factors: 125 250 The next # is 6, and is in a list above, so not prime, 6 = 3 times 2. Next the #7 is not listed above so it is prime. One 7-factor and no 5-factors and no 3-factors and zero-plus 2-factors: (7) 14 28 56 112 One 7-factor and no 5-factors and one 3-factor and zero-plus 2-factors: 21 42 84 168 One 7-factor and no 5-factors and two 3-factors and zero-plus 2-factors: 63 126 One 7-factor and no 5-factors and three 3-factors and zero-plus 2-factors: 189 378 One 7-factor and one 5-factor and no 3-factors and zero-plus 2-factors: 35 70 140 One 7-factor and one 5-factor and one 3-factor and zero-plus 2-factors: 105 210 Two 7-factors and no 5-factors and no 3-factors and zero-plus 2-factors: 49 98 196 Two 7-factors and no 5-factors and one 3-factor and zero-plus 2-factors: 147 294 Next # is 8 and it is in the list of 2-factors above, so it is not prime. Then the # 9 is also listed above, so it is not prime, it is 3 times 3. The # 10 is listed above, so it is not prime, it is 5 times 2. Next 11 is prime as it is not listed above. (Now I will abbreviate "factor" with just "f") One 11-f and no 7-f and no 5-f and no 3-f and zero-plus 2-f: (11) 22 44 88 176 One 11-f and no 7-f and no 5-f and one 3-f and zero-plus 2-f: 33 66 132 One 11-f and no 7-f and no 5-f and two 3-f and zero-plus 2-f: 99 198 One 11-f and no 7-f and no 5-f and three 3-f and zero-plus 2-f: 297 594 One 11-f and no 7-f and one 5-f and no 3-f and zero-plus 2-f: 55 110 One 11-f and no 7-f and two 5-f and no 3-f and zero-plus 2-f: 275 550 One 11-f and one 7-f and no 5-f and no 3-f and zero-plus 2-f: 77 154 One 11-f and one 7-f and no 5-f and one 3-f and zero-plus 2-f: 231 462 (I am going a bit over 100 here just out of interest and curiosity) One 11-f and one 7-f and one 5-f and no 3-f and zero-plus 2-f: 385 770 One 11-f and one 7-f and one 5-f and one 3-f and zero-plus 2-f: 1155 2310 Two 11-f and no 7-f and no 5-f and no 3-f and zero-plus 2-f: 121 242 Next is 12, which is listed above, so it is not prime, and is 3 times 2 times 2. (I will abbreviate "zero-plus" with "zp" hereafter.) Next # is 13, which is not listed above, so it is a prime number. One 13-f and no 11-f and no 7-f and no 5-f and no 3-f and zp 2-f: (13) 26 52 104 One 13-f and no 11-f and no 7-f and no 5-f and one 3-f and zp 2-f: 39 78 156 (From hereon out I will not type the "no" quantities; wastes space) One 13-f and one 5-f and zp 2-f: 65 130 One 13-f and one 7-f and zp 2-f: 91 182 One 13-f and one 11-f and zp 2-f: 143 286 Next # is 14, which is not a prime number as it is listed above. The #'s 15 and 16 are not prime either as they are listed above. The #17 is prime as it is not listed above. One 17-f and zp 2-f: (17) 34 68 136 One 17-f and one 3-f and zp 2-f: 51 102 One 17-f and one 5-f and zp 2-f: 85 170 One 17-f and one 7-f and zp 2-f: 119 238 #18 is above listed. The # 19 is prime, not above. One 19-f and zp 2-f: (19) 38 76 152 One 19-f and one 3-f and zp 2-f: 57 114 One 19-f and one 5-f and zp 2-f: 95 190 One 19-f and one 7-f and zp 2-f: 133 266 Numbers 20, 21, and 22 are found above, so they are not prime. The number 23 is prime and is not listed above. One 23-f and zp 2-f: (23) 46 92 184 One 23-f and one 3-f and zp 2-f: 69 138 One 23-f and one 5-f and zp 2-f: 115 230 Numbers 24, 25, 26, 27, and 28 are found above, so are factorable and not prime. The number 29 is the next prime and is not listed above. One 29-f and zp 2-f: (29) 58 116 One 29-f and one 3-f and zp 2-f: 87 174 One 29-f and one 5-f and zp 2-f: 145 290 The number 30 is not prime as it is found under the 5's section above. The number 31 is prime as it is not above. One 31-f and zp 2-f: (31) 62 124 One 31-f and one 3-f and zp 2-f: 93 186 One 31-f and one 5-f and zp 2-f: 155 310 The numbers 32, 33, 34, 35, and 36 are above so they are not prime. The number 37 is prime as it is not above. One 37-f and zp 2-f: (37) 74 148 One 37-f and 3-f and zp 2-f: 111 222 The numbers 38, 39, and 40 are found above, so they are not prime. The number 41 is prime since it is not above. One 41-f and zp 2-f: (41) 82 164 One 41-f and 3-f and zp 2-f: 123 246 The # 42 is found in the 7's section above so it is not prime. The number 43 is not found above, even though 143 is, so 43 is prime. One 43-f and zp 2-f: (43) 86 172 The #'s 44, 45, and 46 are not prime as they are above. The # 47 is prime as it is not above. One 47-f and zp 2-f: (47) 94 188 The numbers 48, 49, 50, 51, and 52 are listed above, so they are factorable, or non-primes. All the factorable non-prime numbers below 100 should be listed above by now, as we are up to fifty, and we have been doubling everything! So if you want to find a prime number between 50 and 100, just search for it above, and if it is not found, it is prime. Let's see if this is true. I'll list the ones not shown above. I wrote all the numbers listed above that were between 50 and 100, inclusive, and then found that 53, 59, 61, 67, 71, 73, 79, 83, 89, and 97 were not listed above, so they are prime numbers. The numbers check with some other internet sources, so that's good. Last edited by John E. Franklin (2010-01-19 10:47:32) Imagine for a moment that even an earthworm may possess a love of self and a love of others. #2 2010-01-19 12:43:12
Re: A silly prime number method.I've been reviewing print-outs of this, and the data structure "tree's" comes to mind when Imagine for a moment that even an earthworm may possess a love of self and a love of others. #3 2010-01-19 19:47:43
Re: A silly prime number method.I take it you have not heard of the sieve of Eratosthenes. #4 2010-01-20 02:32:33
Re: A silly prime number method.Actually, that's where I got the idea!! But with my way, you have to go to halfway, not the square root, so my Imagine for a moment that even an earthworm may possess a love of self and a love of others. #5 2010-01-20 05:36:27
Re: A silly prime number method.I guess the point of this exercise was to show you could go through Imagine for a moment that even an earthworm may possess a love of self and a love of others. #6 2010-01-20 06:50:44
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I alone have the problem of long solutions. When someone comes up with a shorter demonstration than my own, I just scoff.
I like the idea of doing, as I am a poor reader too. I read alot and come away with little. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means. 90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics. #7 2010-01-20 07:45:59
Re: A silly prime number method.Thanks for the comments bobby. Imagine for a moment that even an earthworm may possess a love of self and a love of others. #8 2010-01-20 08:32:37
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As part of a fictitious biography: "In the real world, this would be a problem. But in mathematics, we can just define a place where this problem doesn't exist. So we'll go ahead and do that now..." #9 2010-01-20 09:02:09
Re: A silly prime number method.Good one! Or go diagonally, as the work gets harder and easier, in an oscillatory pattern! Imagine for a moment that even an earthworm may possess a love of self and a love of others. #10 2010-01-20 12:15:12
Re: A silly prime number method.There was a good scene in "A Beautiful Mind" where JFN efficiently covered an entire blackboard. He even wrote inside the zeros! In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means. 90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics. #11 2010-01-21 13:44:33
Re: A silly prime number method.I've worked out the primes up to 500 by skipping products with 2, 3, or 5's in them, and just Imagine for a moment that even an earthworm may possess a love of self and a love of others. #13 2010-01-23 07:57:46
Re: A silly prime number method.I'm up to 661 now. Diagonally? I'll keep that in mind. Imagine for a moment that even an earthworm may possess a love of self and a love of others. #14 2010-01-29 13:07:23
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Imagine for a moment that even an earthworm may possess a love of self and a love of others. #15 2010-01-30 04:25:23
Re: A silly prime number method.I have over 12 windows on my screen of columns of numbers now and Last edited by John E. Franklin (2010-01-30 04:36:29) Imagine for a moment that even an earthworm may possess a love of self and a love of others. #16 2010-01-30 13:23:40
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