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**Daniel123****Member**- Registered: 2007-05-23
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I know I have posted this beforee.. but I really need straight answers!! I have two days left to decide:

1. Is further maths very hard?

2. Is it too much work?

3. Should I do it???

Thanks!!

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**LQ****Real Member**- Registered: 2006-12-04
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1. You like hard pressies, like DVD-players, right?

2. It will connect your neurons so that you can have more gainy reactions in your brain.

3. Please do. As long as it is nothing bad

*Last edited by LQ (2007-08-31 04:38:36)*

I see clearly now, the universe have the black dots, Thus I am on my way of inventing this remedy...

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**Daniel123****Member**- Registered: 2007-05-23
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GRRR!

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**Ricky****Moderator**- Registered: 2005-12-04
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1. Perhaps. Depends what you mean by hard. See #2.

2. Yes, if by "too" you mean a lot.

3. Do you enjoy puzzle like games? Solving problems? Personally, the tougher the question, the more far out the solution, the more I like the problem. If that describes you, then math is right up your alley.

"In the real world, this would be a problem. But in mathematics, we can just define a place where this problem doesn't exist. So we'll go ahead and do that now..."

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**Daniel123****Member**- Registered: 2007-05-23
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1. Hard... ermm.. how good at maths do you have to be? I only dropped 1 mark over two exams in gcse.. but the exams were really easy so i cant really judge...

2. I'm happy to do a lot, but I want free time

3. I do enjoy puzzle-like games...

If I do further maths.. I want an oath that you will all help me as much as possible...!

Thankss

*Last edited by Daniel123 (2007-08-31 05:34:08)*

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**Ricky****Moderator**- Registered: 2005-12-04
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Math isn't about how good you are at something, it's about experience. The more you work with a topic, the more you become familiar with it. You gain intuition by trying to mold old solutions into new ones.

I don't take oaths. I let my actions speak for themselves.

"In the real world, this would be a problem. But in mathematics, we can just define a place where this problem doesn't exist. So we'll go ahead and do that now..."

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**MathsIsFun****Administrator**- Registered: 2005-01-21
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What are your other alternatives? What are your desires for the future?

"The physicists defer only to mathematicians, and the mathematicians defer only to God ..." - Leon M. Lederman

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**Identity****Member**- Registered: 2007-04-18
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It really depends how much time you have to do it. If you have a heap of other pressing subjects then it would be bad for you but so long as you have the time I see no reason why you wouldn't do it. After all, as Ricky said, it's all about experience

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**Daniel123****Member**- Registered: 2007-05-23
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The subjects I'm trying to choose between are:

Maths (with mechanics)

English

Physics

Further Maths

History

Economics

German.

The only subjects that would trouble me with a lot of work there are english, histroy and economcs - but i would only be doing a max of two of them..

I agree with the 'experience' thing, but I dont want to take it and then find I'm really struggling, so I thought I'd ask people with 'experience'!

My desires for the future, erm.. im not really sure - I'm definitely going uni, but I don't know what to study :S.

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**Daniel123****Member**- Registered: 2007-05-23
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Urghhhh I have to put down my subjects tomorrowwww...

I really don't know! I will have sooo much work if I do further maths + english + history.. :S

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**Ricky****Moderator**- Registered: 2005-12-04
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I agree with the 'experience' thing, but I dont want to take it and then find I'm really struggling, so I thought I'd ask people with 'experience'!

What many people don't realize is that everyone struggles with math. Even the best of us. I was reading an analysis book over the summer at a rate of about a page every 20 minutes.

"In the real world, this would be a problem. But in mathematics, we can just define a place where this problem doesn't exist. So we'll go ahead and do that now..."

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**Daniel123****Member**- Registered: 2007-05-23
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Yes but that's the problem - I can't afford to spend that amount of time trying to understand things. My main aim, for the time being, is to get the best results possible to give me the best opportunites. The only thing that is stopping me from just doing regular maths is my want to extend my knowledge in maths..... so I'm split between two goals.. If I do take further maths, it might jeopardise my success in other subjects...!

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**mathsyperson****Moderator**- Registered: 2005-06-22
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Further Maths isn't much harder than normal maths. The 'Further' really just means 'More'.

I'd guess that you'd spend the same amount of time learning the further stuff as you did learning the normal stuff, and as the further bit takes up another subject anyway, that means that you won't be losing any time.

It's also easier to get an A in maths if you take further, because of module-shuffling trickery.

Why did the vector cross the road?

It wanted to be normal.

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**Daniel123****Member**- Registered: 2007-05-23
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Do you know for definite whether you can drop further maths at the end of year 12? So you have basically done the regulr maths A level in one year... ?

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**mathsyperson****Moderator**- Registered: 2005-06-22
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Well, I can't say for definite because different schools might do it in different ways.

I can say that that's how it happened for me.

One thing though: As Further Maths counts as two subjects, then dropping it might mean that you need to start another one in year 13 so that you're still doing three in total. That doesn't apply if you're planning to do five subjects in year 12 though.

Why did the vector cross the road?

It wanted to be normal.

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**Daniel123****Member**- Registered: 2007-05-23
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I do plan to do five in year 12, but my school don't make you start a new one anyway - someone i know is just doing further maths and physics in year 13. I have made my decision - english, physics, economics and further maths. If that can't be timetabled, then I will do normal maths instead.

Thanks everyone for the advice ... apart from LQ

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**Daniel123****Member**- Registered: 2007-05-23
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Ok I picked the subjects today...

English, Economics, Physics and Further Maths... turns out i got the top mark in the year for maths

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**Identity****Member**- Registered: 2007-04-18
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Daniel123 wrote:

turns out i got the top mark in the year for maths

If you don't pick Further Maths, then who else would dare attempt it?

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