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#1 2007-06-11 01:53:53

octonion
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ellipse

the sum of the distances from the point (x,y) on an ellipse to the points (-e,0) and (e,0) (where e>0) is constant and equal to S. Use this characterization of the ellipse to show that its equation in the xy-plane is x^2/a^2  + y^2/b^2 = 1, where a^2 = (S/2)^2 and b^2 = (S/2)^2 - e^2


I am using the vector form for the 2 distances, and I get S^2 = 4(x^2) + 4(y^2)
where did I go wrong?

Thanks to all for your help!

Last edited by octonion (2007-06-11 02:22:00)


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#2 2007-06-11 14:29:19

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Re: ellipse

The total distance of red line segments together is S.


X'(y-Xβ)=0

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#3 2007-06-11 21:48:47

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Re: ellipse

[Edited wrong working.]

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#4 2007-06-12 09:11:40

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Re: ellipse

JaneFairfax, thanks for your  help. I have a question though: how can you get only positive terms inside the square root, even after simplification, when you have negative terms? I did expand and simplify several times, and I get a     


term!!
This is driving me mad!

Last edited by octonion (2007-06-12 11:03:40)


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#5 2007-06-12 09:40:33

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Re: ellipse

I’m sorry, I made a mistake. The expression inside the square root should actually be

Sorry, my working above is wrong.

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#6 2007-06-12 10:31:25

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Re: ellipse

Right, this is my working (hopefully correct this time).

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#7 2007-06-12 10:39:24

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Re: ellipse

Now I agree! and as we say in my country, merci...


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#8 2007-06-12 21:22:57

JaneFairfax
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Re: ellipse

Il n’y a pas de quoi. J’aime aider tout le monde. smile

By the way, the eccentricity of this ellipse is ea.

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