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## #1 2007-05-26 01:41:16

Sekky
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### Simple Groups

Is there any discernable property of simple groups that can be used to quickly verify whether a group is simple other than to blast through trying to find normal subgroups?

## #2 2007-05-26 03:37:38

Ricky
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### Re: Simple Groups

It will become much easier to tell if a group is simple or not once you learn Sylow-theory.  Sylow-theory ("see-low theory") is really just an awesomely powerful theorem, and it's primary use is to prove whether or not all groups of a certain order are simple (at least in my experience).

Other than that, I know of no way to simply tell if a group is simple or not.  Obvioiusly any abelian group with a proper non-trivial subgroup is not simple.

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