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#1 2007-04-11 08:36:34

javacodeman
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Deep Grey is a sorry game

I just wanted to post my frustration at the game.  After just math-nelly picking a number of boxes, I thought I figure out how to win:

Let the number of boxes remaining be "B"

if B modulo 3 is equal to 1, pick one box
if B modulo 3 is equal to 2, pick two boxes
if B modulo 3 is equal to 0, you'll lose (assuming that the other player follows the above two rules)

Since the starting point is B = 18 (which is divisible by 3) and since deep grey knows how to play, you can never win.


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#2 2007-04-11 09:47:23

MathsIsFun
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Re: Deep Grey is a sorry game

But keep trying ... you might just win smile


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#3 2007-04-11 14:44:31

javacodeman
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Re: Deep Grey is a sorry game

I typed in w i l l y - n e l l y and it keeps putting it up as hairy-nelly.  What gives?dunno

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#4 2007-04-11 14:52:00

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Re: Deep Grey is a sorry game

javacodeman wrote:

I just wanted to post my frustration at the game.  After just math-nelly picking a number of boxes, I thought I figure out how to win:

Let the number of boxes remaining be "B"

if B modulo 3 is equal to 1, pick one box
if B modulo 3 is equal to 2, pick two boxes
if B modulo 3 is equal to 0, you'll lose (assuming that the other player follows the above two rules)

Since the starting point is B = 18 (which is divisible by 3) and since deep grey knows how to play, you can never win.


java

Okay, I'll recant somewhat.  After figuring out the method of winning, I assumed that the programmer made deep grey smart enough to win every time.  Apparently he lapses every once in a while.up

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#5 2007-04-11 15:24:57

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Re: Deep Grey is a sorry game

Aha! You discovered a secret ... a "human" program up


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#6 2007-04-12 01:34:40

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Re: Deep Grey is a sorry game

Huh, cool. I just made the same assumption and thought the Deep Grey would always win.

As for the other thing, when random words get replaced by random other words, it's almost certainly the work of the word filter. I'm not sure why the replacement is hair, but that's what's doing it anyway.


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#7 2007-04-13 08:18:28

Zhylliolom
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Re: Deep Grey is a sorry game

Wow, is this game really hard? I went to try it after reading this and won my first try.

Ok, I think I just found out the trick right away and that's how I won, he hasn't beat me yet. I just get it down to 5 boxes at the end and it's my turn... I pick 2, and whatever he picks I will win. I'm sure sometimes this won't be possible though.

Also, MathsIsFun, I found a bug with this game. Whenever you click "Choose One" or "Choose Two" you take squares, even if it isn't your turn. There's an easy way to win the game too wink.

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#8 2007-04-13 10:27:39

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Re: Deep Grey is a sorry game

Thanks Zhy.

.. fixed it: Deep Grey

(I wonder if there are any cool variations I could make?)

Last edited by MathsIsFun (2007-04-13 11:16:22)


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#9 2007-04-13 18:49:55

Devantè
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Re: Deep Grey is a sorry game

deepgreyig4.jpg

That wasn't hard. big_smile

Maybe change the way that the CPU thinks by adding difficulty levels. Perhaps even add a timer so that you have to move quickly. Or a speed game. big_smile

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#10 2007-04-27 01:11:57

Identity
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Re: Deep Grey is a sorry game

Heh, this is pretty easy, the first time I won by clicking 'Pick Two' the whole way, second time I clicked 'Pick One' only at the end.

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#11 2007-04-27 01:16:22

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Re: Deep Grey is a sorry game

Difficulty Level sounds good.


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#12 2007-04-27 07:01:28

Devantè
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Re: Deep Grey is a sorry game

The game is too easy for me now...now I know that;

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#13 2007-04-27 07:20:03

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Re: Deep Grey is a sorry game

That won't get you the win every time, Deep Grey always changes its moves a little bit even if you keep yours the same.


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It wanted to be normal.

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#14 2007-04-27 07:37:02

Devantè
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Re: Deep Grey is a sorry game

Really? I played it a few dozen times (literally) and its method never changed. Perhaps this is a bug or a glitch needing to be fixed? Perhaps I am wrong myself.

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#15 2007-04-27 12:56:23

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Re: Deep Grey is a sorry game

I win every time i play that Deep Grey thing.

It isn't hard.


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#16 2007-05-01 07:57:21

Devantè
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Re: Deep Grey is a sorry game

Thus proving that the game 'Deep Grey' is a sorry game...

...

Whatever that may mean, anyway.

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#17 2007-05-04 21:37:56

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Re: Deep Grey is a sorry game

Devantè wrote:

The game is too easy for me now...now I know that;

That method doesn't work for me.


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