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**ganesh****Moderator**- Registered: 2005-06-28
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Whats so special about the TN

1.444667861..................??????

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**MathsIsFun****Administrator**- Registered: 2005-01-21
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Do a google search for "1.444667861", and look at the first result

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**espeon****Real Member**- Registered: 2006-02-05
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whats a transcendantal number? also why is pi pi? i mean as in why is 1.something called pi whats so special about it?

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**ganesh****Moderator**- Registered: 2005-06-28
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Transcendental Numbers are numbers that cannot be written using an equation.

Like x²+1=0.

If Google has a result for 1.444667861, I am happy. I shall search and then post.

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**MathsIsFun****Administrator**- Registered: 2005-01-21
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I hope it returns the same result for you that it did for me.

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**espeon****Real Member**- Registered: 2006-02-05
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i dont get it still...

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**ganesh****Moderator**- Registered: 2005-06-28
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Wow! We get back to MathsIsFun forum

espeon, you'd have to wait a little

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**espeon****Real Member**- Registered: 2006-02-05
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Aw ok

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**mikau****Member**- Registered: 2005-08-22
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A number that can't be written as an equation eh? Infatuating!

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**Ricky****Moderator**- Registered: 2005-12-04
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Can you prove it's transcendental?

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**Dross****Member**- Registered: 2006-08-24
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espeon wrote:

whats a transcendantal number? also why is pi pi? i mean as in why is 1.something called pi whats so special about it?

Pi is the ratio of a circle's diameter to it's circumference. So if you measured both of these on any given circle, you would find that:

circumference = pi * diameter.

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**espeon****Real Member**- Registered: 2006-02-05
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pi is 1. 4 something ssomething and i don hve a clur what transcendental ismlol

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**Dross****Member**- Registered: 2006-08-24
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Pi is 3.141592... (the digits go on for ever, and never repeat)

The numbers on the number line can be split onto two groups: those that are *algebraic* and those that are *transcendental*.

Algebraic numbers are a solution to a polynomial equation* where all the coefficients** are whole numbers. So, for example, the number 2 is algebraic, because it is the solution to the equation:

the number [sup]3[/sup]/[sub]2[/sub] is algebraic because it is the solution of:

and the square root of 2 is algebraic, as it is the solution of:

A transcendental number is any number that is not algebraic. As it happens, pi is transcendental.

* a polynomial equation is one like:

or

or

** in the above equations,

, , and are the coefficients of the equation.Bad speling makes me [sic]

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**espeon****Real Member**- Registered: 2006-02-05
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dont worry i guess ill learn it in key stage 4 or something

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**luca-deltodesco****Member**- Registered: 2006-05-05
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espeon wrote:

dont worry i guess ill learn it in key stage 4 or something

doubt it, im moving onto A-Level maths, and ive never even heard of transcendental numbers before now

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**espeon****Real Member**- Registered: 2006-02-05
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o good luck in ur a lvls

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ganesh wrote:

Whats so special about the TN

1.444667861..................??????

Is it known if this number (i.e. e^(1/e)) is transcendental?

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**ganesh****Moderator**- Registered: 2005-06-28
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Hi zetafunc,

is 1 and is . approaches 2.7182818284....I think it is transcendental. I am not too sure.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: Harlan's World
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zetafunc wrote:

ganesh wrote:Whats so special about the TN

1.444667861..................??????Is it known if this number (i.e. e^(1/e)) is transcendental?

It has not been proven to be transcendental, I don't think.

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