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#1 2006-09-21 10:32:27

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a programming forum?

A programming forum might be a worthwhile addition to this site. Today math majors are required to take programming courses so on occasion, math students are going to have programming questions. SO this being a website for math students and enthusiests, a programming forum might be a logical addition to the site.


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#2 2006-09-21 14:40:07

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Re: a programming forum?

The problem I see with that is that "programming" is too general; there are a bazillion and a half programming languages out there, and as many ways and contexts to use them, so someone looking for help with a specific system may not be best served here.

Other than that, it's a great idea and fits very well with the forum. smile


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#3 2006-09-21 18:01:03

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Re: a programming forum?

true, but all programming languages differ only (in the majority case) by syntax and limitations, a programming forum here could be more on the algorithms behind the programming, and not for help on the language itself


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#4 2006-09-21 18:48:53

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Re: a programming forum?

Algorithms are one of my fave subjects! Linked lists, binary trees, etc are like pure magic.

So, I vote to have an "Algorithm / Programming" section (maybe a better name though).


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#5 2006-09-22 03:09:53

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Re: a programming forum?

algorithmics?


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#6 2006-09-22 07:51:32

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Re: a programming forum?

algorithmics? and also which type of programming? scientific calculator programming or computer programmin or whatever programming? if it was a computer or calculator then i vote yes!


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#7 2006-09-22 08:17:45

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Re: a programming forum?

we refer to computer programming


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#8 2006-09-22 12:35:06

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Re: a programming forum?

A programming and algorithm forum sounds good. And maybe just a few sticky's for questions about synax for common languages, like C++ or java.


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#9 2006-09-22 18:37:33

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Re: a programming forum?

um plz explain what a algortih is. and also which type of computer programming?


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#10 2006-09-22 18:46:35

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Re: a programming forum?

Algorithm (name after a guy called Al-Khwarizmi) is a step-by-step solution to a problem.

Long Division is an example. If you follow the steps you get the answer.


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#11 2006-09-22 18:52:57

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Re: a programming forum?

oooooooooooooooooooooo that makes sense ty rod


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#12 2006-11-27 14:19:25

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Re: a programming forum?

Hello,

I just found this topic and joined Math is Fun just for the above mentioned reasons.
I'm currently wadin g through- "Algorithmics- the Spirit of Computing" by Harel and "Mastering Algorithm With C"
by Louden.
Both are pretty good, although a bit difficult to follow when trying to determine why the algorithms were written the
way they were written.
A bit bewildering since I have no formal programming training - although I have managed to get through a couple of
books on "C".

Any advice for furthering my understanding of why algorithms are written the way they are would be most helpful.

Cheers,

CQ


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#13 2006-11-27 14:52:25

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Re: a programming forum?

luca-deltodesco wrote:

true, but all programming languages differ only (in the majority case) by syntax and limitations, a programming forum here could be more on the algorithms behind the programming, and not for help on the language itself

No, there are four major different types of programming.  Procedural, object oriented, functional, and logic.  Each are extremely different, both in syntax and basic concepts (theory) behind their use.

It's just because procedural as well as Java/C++ style OO are the most popular that it seems like most languages differ only by syntax and limitation.


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#14 2006-11-28 05:01:39

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Re: a programming forum?

A programming forum would be good. It would be like an Euler Avenue for programming enthusiasts.

So, I vote yes!

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#15 2007-07-22 16:13:54

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Re: a programming forum?

I'm compelled to reitterate that i really think this site deserves a computer science forum. At my school, there is a 3 course difference between an associates in math, and an associates in computer science. They're so closely related, and so many of our members here are computer scientsists as well. I very often have computer science related questions i know many here could answer but i'm not comfortable posting them in Help.

We have devente's vote, and you have my vote as well. Anyone else?


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#16 2007-07-22 16:19:37

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Re: a programming forum?

I must say I absolutely hate message boards with far to many different forums.  We should consider very carefully suggestions to make unnecessary extra new ones.

That being said, I'm all for creating a comp sci forum.  I'm also for combining the Maths Resources and Teaching Maths is Fun, Too, if it's at all possible.  Each are very small, and I still can't quite figure out what the difference is.


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#17 2007-07-22 16:25:20

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Re: a programming forum?

sweet! But are you authorized to do that without Rods go ahead?


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#18 2007-07-22 17:02:16

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Re: a programming forum?

Not only am I not authorized, I don't even have the ability to.


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#19 2007-07-22 17:23:23

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Re: a programming forum?

hehe! yeah thats what I meant. Well what happens now?


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#20 2007-07-22 19:59:51

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Re: a programming forum?

We wait for other members to express their opinions and ideas on the subject matter, that's what we do. smile

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#21 2007-07-23 11:26:35

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Re: a programming forum?

well a number of existing threads could be moved there. Like my tower of hanoi thread, the lower bound proofs thread, or Luca's cool ray tracing programs. Etc. 

We could post explanations for various computer science algorithms like searching and sorting. (GO MERGE SORT!) answer questions or give tips on data structures or program organization, (like Ricky did in Luca's physics program thread)

and the list goes on! Need I say more?


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#22 2007-07-23 11:30:56

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Re: a programming forum?

Ricky wrote:

...That being said, I'm all for creating a comp sci forum.  I'm also for combining the Maths Resources and Teaching Maths is Fun, Too, if it's at all possible...

Sounds good. Need a good name ...

Coding Is Fun
Algorithmics
Programming
Computing


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#23 2007-07-23 11:32:54

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Re: a programming forum?

WOOOO!  YEAH!!! cool up


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#24 2007-07-23 12:41:03

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Re: a programming forum?

Coder's Corner (going along with the Euler Avenue naming style).


"In the real world, this would be a problem.  But in mathematics, we can just define a place where this problem doesn't exist.  So we'll go ahead and do that now..."

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#25 2007-07-23 12:47:30

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Re: a programming forum?

thats got a nice ring to it, Ricky! But isn't computer science more than just lines of code? smile

Programming and Algorithm development sounds like a nice name to me because while it may apply to computers, the topics may not necesssarily involve computer programs. (like the tower of hanoi)

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