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**saarvin89****Member**- Registered: 2006-04-25
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please proof for tat tis is true

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**Patrick****Real Member**- Registered: 2006-02-24
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I guess this is a joke?

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**ganesh****Moderator**- Registered: 2005-06-28
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-1²=1²

(1-2)² = (2-1)²

Taking square root on both the sides,

1-2=2-1

2=4

Dividing both the sides by 2,

1=2.

But we know 1+1=2,

Therefore,

1=1+1

or

1+1=1

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**coolwind****Member**- Registered: 2005-10-30
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ganesh wrote:

-1²=1²

(1-2)² = (2-1)²

Taking square root on both the sides,

1-2=2-1

2=4

Dividing both the sides by 2,

1=2.

But we know 1+1=2,

Therefore,

1=1+1

or

1+1=1

cool...:cool:

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**naturewild****Member**- Registered: 2005-12-04
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That's... smart!

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**MathsIsFun****Administrator**- Registered: 2005-01-21
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That's ... ganesh!

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**krassi_holmz****Real Member**- Registered: 2005-12-02
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(1-2)² = (2-1)²

Taking square root on both the sides,

1-2=2-1

Noooo...:

a^2=b^2 => |a|= |b|, not a=b.

*Last edited by krassi_holmz (2006-05-01 00:15:14)*

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**luca-deltodesco****Member**- Registered: 2006-05-05
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ok then, how about this false proof

-1/1 = 1/-1

sqrt(-1/1) = sqrt(1/-1)

sqrt(-1)/sqrt(1) = sqrt(1)/sqrt(-1) or..

i/1 = 1/i

i/2 = 1/(2i)

i/2 + 3/(2i) = 1/(2i) + 3/(2i)

i (i/2 + 3/(2i) ) = i ( 1/(2i) + 3/(2i) )

(i^2)/2 = (3i)/2i = i/(2i) + (3i)/(2i)

(-1)/2 + 3/2 = 1/2 + 3/2

-1/2 = 1/2

-1 = 1

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**ganesh****Moderator**- Registered: 2005-06-28
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luca-deltodesco wrote:

ok then, how about this false proof

-1/1 = 1/-1

sqrt(-1/1) = sqrt(1/-1)

sqrt(-1)/sqrt(1) = sqrt(1)/sqrt(-1) or..

i/1 = 1/i

There lies the mistake.

As krassi_holmz rightly pointed out in the previous post,

If

then

or

It would not be right to say a=b.

When square root is being taken on both sides of an equation, the plus or minus/minus or plus sign has an important role to play, it cannot be overlooked.

When you had taken the square roots of the LHS and the RHS in steps 2, 3, you have taken only the positive values. Remember square root on 1 is not +1 alone, it is ±1.

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**krassi_holmz****Real Member**- Registered: 2005-12-02
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Good explamation.

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**Affirmation****Guest**

x=y

x*x = y*y

x*y = y*y | - x*x

x*y - x*x = y*y - x*x

x(y-x) = (y-x)*(y+x) | /(y-x)

x = y + x

x = x + x

x = 2x

1 = 2

**ganesh****Moderator**- Registered: 2005-06-28
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Affirmation wrote:

x(y-x) = (y-x)*(y+x) | /(y-x)

The (erroneous) proof started with x=y.

Hence, x-y=0 and y-x=0.

The two sides of an equation should not be divided by zero, it may lead to absurd results!

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**Affirmation****Guest**

Correct Of course there will always be something wrong as 1 cannot equal 2

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We had another collection of false proofs somewhere here - maybe I should collect them and make a page about it.

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**John E. Franklin****Member**- Registered: 2005-08-29
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1 will not equal 2 as long as we judge them to be different.

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**Ricky****Moderator**- Registered: 2005-12-04
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1 = 2 in mod 0.

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