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## #1 2006-02-08 17:05:09

angeleyes01
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### Puzzle

Pence In A Pound
People In A Quartet
Numbers On A Phone Keypad
Years In A Century

Add All The Numbers

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## #2 2006-02-08 18:49:59

MathsIsFun
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### Re: Puzzle

100+4+10+100?

"The physicists defer only to mathematicians, and the mathematicians defer only to God ..."  - Leon M. Lederman

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## #3 2006-02-08 18:53:54

Ricky
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### Re: Puzzle

Number of keys on a phone keypad: 12

"In the real world, this would be a problem.  But in mathematics, we can just define a place where this problem doesn't exist.  So we'll go ahead and do that now..."

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## #4 2006-02-08 19:07:47

justlookingforthemoment
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### Re: Puzzle

Hmm... but numbers on a phone keypad: 10

Where do you keep getting all these questions from, angeleyes01? They all seem rather the same! Is it a worksheet or something?

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## #5 2006-02-09 05:00:09

Zach
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### Re: Puzzle

214.

Boy let me tell you what:
I bet you didn't know it, but I'm a fiddle player too.
And if you'd care to take a dare, I'll make a bet with you.

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## #6 2006-02-09 12:49:53

angeleyes01
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### Re: Puzzle

They are puzzles on a quiz show .
I tryed 213 because my phone keypad only goes up to 9 and someone said 214 and that was wrong.
I keep thinking they are changing the letters to Roman Numerals and then adding every single number they find.
But if someone can help me solve this with the correct answer and i win i will be happy to share some of the prize.

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## #7 2006-02-10 11:13:27

zerorip
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245 give it a go

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## #8 2006-02-10 12:34:29

Zach
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### Re: Puzzle

0 is a number on your keypad. 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 Equalates to 10 numbers. 214 is the only logical answer currently. Neither hash nor star are numbers. A quartet can only contain four memebers; lest it become a quintet with 5 or a triplet with 3. A century is 100, no question, years. There are obviously only 100 pence in a single pound (sterling); as the system works using a centographic system.

Roman Numerals would still work out to 214...

Less....

5050 + 45 + 10 + 5050 = 10155. That's all numbers together.

Boy let me tell you what:
I bet you didn't know it, but I'm a fiddle player too.
And if you'd care to take a dare, I'll make a bet with you.

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## #9 2006-02-14 12:29:08

angeleyes01
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### Re: Puzzle

Hi the answer turned out to be 10,864.These puzzles are doing my head in .They have just started a new one.

NINETY DIVIDED BY
FIVE MULTIPLIED BY
TEN MINUS TWELVE

ADD ALL THE NUMBERS

I think they do these because nobody can figure out how they get their answer so they never have to give the prize away.:(

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## #10 2006-02-14 13:04:39

welshy
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### Re: Puzzle

you need to add the roman numerals, hexidecimal values and the arabic numbers.

Drop me an e-mail if you want me to send you an example.

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## #11 2006-02-15 11:46:59

angeleyes01
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### Re: Puzzle

Will you send me an example by email .Thanks

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## #12 2006-02-15 17:55:26

MathsIsFun
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### Re: Puzzle

OK, maybe we are just missing the hex numbers:

A=10, B=11, C=12, D=13, E=14, F=15

"The physicists defer only to mathematicians, and the mathematicians defer only to God ..."  - Leon M. Lederman

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## #13 2006-02-16 01:21:20

angeleyes01
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### Re: Puzzle

I'd really love to win this comp as the prize is up at £2,000.

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## #14 2006-02-16 12:26:36

angeleyes01
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### Re: Puzzle

The highest i come up with is 6699.I will share half the prize if someone can give me the correct total and i win.

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## #15 2006-02-19 12:57:21

angeleyes01
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### Re: Puzzle

Does anyone have any ideas what the total would be.

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## #16 2006-02-24 01:32:45

angeleyes01
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### Re: Puzzle

This comp is still going as no one can solve it,can anyone please come up with a number different than 6699.The prize money is going up too.

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## #17 2006-02-26 11:14:48

welshy
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### Re: Puzzle

angeleyes, e-mail me: - [snip]  so that I can get your e-mail address.  I will then forward you a spreadsheet to see my solution.

If you can get through and it's correct we can share the prize £.

Cheers

Last edited by MathsIsFun (2006-02-26 19:04:31)

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## #18 2006-02-26 12:59:42

angeleyes01
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### Re: Puzzle

The puzzle just ended the answer was 7894.

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## #19 2006-02-26 19:07:02

MathsIsFun
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### Re: Puzzle

angeleyes: can you tell us more about the competition? and the reasoning behind the answer so that we can do a better job next time.

"The physicists defer only to mathematicians, and the mathematicians defer only to God ..."  - Leon M. Lederman

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## #20 2006-02-27 01:24:06

angeleyes01
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### Re: Puzzle

They do these competitions every couple of days and they never explain how they get their answer the way they see it if they explain it would not be as much fun and everyone would know the answer.I used  roman numerals and the highest i could get was 6699.So they could use anything to get to their answer.

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## #21 2006-02-27 14:17:19

ashwil
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### Re: Puzzle

The puzzle that has just finished (answer 7894) is, of course, designed to make money for the organisers, so it isnt going to be simple! It is designed to be extremely cryptic.

Working on this and the other recent examples, I have been able to get extremely close to the answer on 4 occasions now, so I think I have the general basis (if not entirely correct). It seems to be made up of:

1) the answer to the obvious calculation
2) the summation of the arabic numbers as displayed (and possibly including such things as adding the "nine" from the word "ninety")
3) the summation of all roman numerals (including technically erroneous ones like ID and VID)
4) the answer to all partial calculations (eg, 5*10=50; 5*10-12=38)

Using this method, I have arrived at 7857 and 7869 (the difference being whether or not to include "-12" as a stand-alone calculation. Still either 25 or 37 short of the correct answer.

I honestly don't believe that they have included hex numbers as they would also have to include combinations, as they do for Roman. In this instance, the occurence of the string "ded" in the word "divided" would yield 3565 on its own.

Although most people think that the organisers change the rules for each competition, I actually think that they may be consistent, given that I am consistently very close to the correct answers with this methodology. This would certainly explain why they don't reveal the logic and, to be honest, I prefer to crack it myself rather than be told by the puzzle composer!!

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## #22 2006-02-28 14:43:46

angeleyes01
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### Re: Puzzle

They have started a new one.
______________________________
|
THE MONEY MILE                       |
|
_____________________________|
CARLTON |WATER     |LIVELY        |                                                                                                                  MANOR    |COMPANY |PLACE         |
22acres  |                |5 bedrooms |
£625       |£750         |      ___       |
____     |                |     |SIX |    |
|  12|    |                |     |____|   |
|___|    |                |                  |
|                |    £500       |
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ADD ALL THE NUMBERS

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## #23 2006-03-01 01:29:44

ashwil
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### Re: Puzzle

AngelEyes, if my logic is anywhere near correct, the answer is 10,305 or somewhere close to that. This is based on all of the roman numerals as they stand individually plus:

MI, IL, MIL from "MILE"
LI, IV, LIV from "LIVELY"
IX from "SIX"

Then all of the english numbers (6,12,5,22,625,750,500)

Somebody did give an answer of 10,605 last night. Can't see how they got the extra 300 - poss just addition error - but it was wrong anyway!

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## #24 2006-03-01 01:38:36

insomnia
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### Re: Puzzle

Isn't it possible that it means all the numbers that make up the number.

For example if it said add 5 and 5

1+2+3+4+5+1+2+3+4+5 = 30

Or have I totally missed the point?

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## #25 2006-03-01 01:39:31

ashwil
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### Re: Puzzle

BTW, for other users:

Thanks Angeleyes for trying to put a graphic representation on here - it almost worked. Anyone who hasn't seen the original on TV may like to know that the image is supposed to be a section of a Monopoly board with 3 properties:

CARLTON MANOR 22 Acres £625. The picture of the house has "12" on the door
WATER COMPANY £750
LIVELY PLACE 5 Bedrooms £500. The picture of the house has "SIX" on the door

Together, these propertiescomprise THE MONEY MILE

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