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#1 2016-08-16 18:43:10

010595
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HELP...tough maths proof

never mind i did it...how do i delete posts?

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A company logo consists of a circle with an isosceles triangle inscribed inside so that the three vertices lie on the circumference.  Prove that it is impossible for the area of the triangle to be exactly half that of the circle.

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#2 2016-08-16 19:35:38

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Re: HELP...tough maths proof

Let

be the area of the outside segments.
Assume that

This would mean that

Or that

Which is a contradiction, because the area of a circle doesn't equal base times height.

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#3 2016-08-16 19:37:57

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Re: HELP...tough maths proof

hi 010595,
It can be proved if you are acquainted with maxima and minima in calculus. Please specify the topic on which you require solution..


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#4 2016-08-16 19:59:49

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Re: HELP...tough maths proof

hi 010595

Welcome to the forum.

There are several construction techniques that allow a triangle to be 'converted' into an equal area square.

It would be relatively easy to make that a square with twice the area of the triangle. 

It has been shown to be impossible to construct a square equal in area to a circle,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squaring_the_circle

Bob


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#5 2016-08-16 20:13:51

010595
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Re: HELP...tough maths proof

Hi thickhead, the topic is based on trigonometry and circle geometry, no calculus...but not to worry  I have solved it!!! Thankyou to all smile

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#6 2016-08-16 20:26:06

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Re: HELP...tough maths proof

I too used trigonometry and used maxima.the area of the triangle comes out to be


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#7 2016-08-17 01:24:59

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Re: HELP...tough maths proof

Hi 010595;

Please do not delete posts when other people have commented about them.

Does anyone remember this question so that I can restore it?


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#8 2016-08-17 03:28:52

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Re: HELP...tough maths proof

hi bobbym,

From memory it was

A company logo consists of a circle with an isosceles triangle inscribed inside so that the three vertices lie on the circumference.  Prove that it is impossible for the area of the triangle to be exactly half that of the circle.

I have restored that above.

Bob


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#9 2016-08-17 03:30:17

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Re: HELP...tough maths proof

Hi Bob;

Thanks. I am locking the thread to prevent further erasures.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#10 2016-08-17 03:32:45

bob bundy
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Re: HELP...tough maths proof

hi Aeronaesis

Which is a contradiction, because the area of a circle doesn't equal base times height.

True, but I don't think that 'proves' the impossibility.  Say a rectangle was 6 π  long and 6 wide; it would have an area of 36 π .  This is the same as a circle with radius 6.

Bob


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