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**niharika_kumar****Member**- From: Numeraland
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Q.1.

find a,b,c,d and f.

friendship is tan 90°.

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**White_Owl****Member**- Registered: 2010-03-03
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Integrate the left side. Simplify it. The result should be equal to the expression on the right.

Or backward - differentiate the right side, the result should be equal to the expression under the integral.

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

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**niharika_kumar****Member**- From: Numeraland
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I tried integrating left or differentiating right but it became lengthy.

bobbym, what's EM method?

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

That is an acronym for Experimental Mathematics.

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Let u = sin(x) and express sin(3x) in terms of sin.

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**bob bundy****Administrator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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My earlier suggestion didn't, work, sorry.

But this does.

Start with the right hand side and differentiate chiefly using the product rule.

Use zetafunc`s suggestion to express sin(3x) in terms of sin(x) and sin cubed.

Now make the left hand side look like the right hand side.

You can quickly determine a to start off the sin cubed term and b to avoid any sin squared (remember sin squared + cos squared).

Then fix c to finalise the sin3x and sin x terms.

Then d and f allow you to tidy up the rest.

Bob

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**niharika_kumar****Member**- From: Numeraland
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yes I solved it now. Thanks.

here comes another question:-

friendship is tan 90°.

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**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
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Was post #3 the official answer?

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niharika_kumar wrote:

yes I solved it now. Thanks.

here comes another question:-

I posted a video solution to your problem here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCEq3ylr1OE

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**bob bundy****Administrator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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hi zetafunc,

Beautiful solution! And nicely explained.

Bob

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**niharika_kumar****Member**- From: Numeraland
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thanks. It was really very well explained.

well what are the things that should come in our mind for making substitution when we encounter such problems?

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Normally with these types of problems, in which you've got a function nested within another function (e.g. log(sin(x)), e^(tan(x)), arctan(sec(x) + cos(x))), what they expect you to do is to make the most obvious substitution -- in this case, whatever the function inside arctan() was.

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