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#1 2014-06-10 00:28:10

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What values of x make this expression a perfect cube?


What values of x make this expression a perfect cube?


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#2 2014-06-10 02:34:02

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Re: What values of x make this expression a perfect cube?

Hi Agnishom;

Any restrictions on the x?

Did you look at the sum question you posted?


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#3 2014-06-10 02:43:15

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Re: What values of x make this expression a perfect cube?

x is an Integer. I am getting -4. But that is not working.

Link Please?


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#4 2014-06-10 02:44:15

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Re: What values of x make this expression a perfect cube?

x = - 5 is also an answer.

For the link:

http://www.mathisfunforum.com/viewtopic … 18#p319718


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#5 2014-06-10 03:52:27

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Re: What values of x make this expression a perfect cube?

bobbym wrote:

x = - 5 is also an answer.

-216 is not a perfect square.

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#6 2014-06-10 03:54:03

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Re: What values of x make this expression a perfect cube?

That is true but he wants cubes.


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#7 2014-06-10 03:56:23

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Re: What values of x make this expression a perfect cube?

I think I am going blind.

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#8 2014-06-10 03:59:42

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Re: What values of x make this expression a perfect cube?

Agnishom wrote:

x is an Integer. I am getting -4. But that is not working.

I think -4 does work, unless I am not reading properly again.

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#9 2014-06-10 04:02:02

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Re: What values of x make this expression a perfect cube?

It is a solution but it is probably not working because there are at least 2 solutions and he is entering only 1.


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#10 2014-06-10 04:48:01

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Re: What values of x make this expression a perfect cube?

I'm getting -5, -4, -3, and -2. (so far)

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#11 2014-06-10 04:53:42

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Re: What values of x make this expression a perfect cube?

Visit an optician maybe? smile

How are you doing this?


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#12 2014-06-10 04:55:00

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Re: What values of x make this expression a perfect cube?

T&E, I hope.

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#13 2014-06-10 04:56:49

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Re: What values of x make this expression a perfect cube?

Do you agree with those answers first ?

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#14 2014-06-10 04:59:49

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Re: What values of x make this expression a perfect cube?

Hi Bob

I am getting those answers, too.


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#15 2014-06-10 05:10:08

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Re: What values of x make this expression a perfect cube?

Thanks.  I have to confess I don't have a method that proves those are the only solutions.  I just used Excel to slog through a large set of possibles. 

Bob


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#16 2014-06-10 05:11:15

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Re: What values of x make this expression a perfect cube?

I do have a method. I will post it here. As Bob would always say, watch this space.

Solution

Last edited by anonimnystefy (2014-06-10 05:21:17)


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#17 2014-06-10 05:12:04

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Re: What values of x make this expression a perfect cube?

bob bundy wrote:

Thanks.  I have to confess I don't have a method that proves those are the only solutions.  I just used Excel to slog through a large set of possibles. 

Bob

In the US we call that cheating. smile

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#18 2014-06-10 05:15:40

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Re: What values of x make this expression a perfect cube?

Depends on where in the US. Some call it EM.


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#19 2014-06-10 05:22:17

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Re: What values of x make this expression a perfect cube?

Done. There might be mistakes though, so there may be more solutions.


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#20 2014-06-10 05:24:35

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Re: What values of x make this expression a perfect cube?

Now I know Stefy's MTG username.

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#21 2014-06-10 05:27:36

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Re: What values of x make this expression a perfect cube?

MTG? Magic: The Gathering? big_smile


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#22 2014-06-10 05:28:21

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Re: What values of x make this expression a perfect cube?

Your solution?


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#23 2014-06-10 05:30:05

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Re: What values of x make this expression a perfect cube?

But it is leading me to a 'proper' solution.

I got to (2x+7)^3 + 63(2x+7) and then Stefy posted.  So I'll give the glory to him.  smile

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#24 2014-06-10 05:32:27

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Re: What values of x make this expression a perfect cube?

I have no idea who is talking to whom anymore.

Thanks, Bob. I am pretty sure that you would've got it if you continued.

Last edited by anonimnystefy (2014-06-10 05:37:43)


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#25 2014-06-10 05:37:45

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Re: What values of x make this expression a perfect cube?

hi Stefy,

Your solution looks good to me.  I think you've proved those are the only solutions. 

Bob

ps.  My excel went from x = -10 to + 50 and I noticed that all the cube roots are symmetrically placed around x = -3.5.  So its a good demonstration of bobbym's mantra:

get some data first.

Last edited by Bob (2014-06-10 05:40:19)


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