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#1 2014-05-20 15:41:43

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What is the gf of...

In how many ways can you add 1,2 and 3 to get 8? (order matters)

Here is the list of all 81 ways:

What is the gf that I need for this problem?


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#2 2014-05-20 15:59:17

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Re: What is the gf of...

One way is by using a couple of gf"s

G(x,3) = 3

G(x,4) = 19

G(x,5) = 30

G(x,6) = 21

G(x,7) = 7

G(x,8) = 1

now add em up!


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#3 2014-05-20 16:12:05

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Re: What is the gf of...

Thank You


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#4 2014-05-20 16:15:50

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Re: What is the gf of...

The search is now on for a single gf? I have to go eat so I will not find it.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#5 2014-05-20 16:26:07

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Re: What is the gf of...

Hi guys

I have found this to be the gf from bobbym's gf:


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#6 2014-05-20 16:28:41

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Re: What is the gf of...

Hi;

Very nice!


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#7 2014-05-20 16:33:21

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Re: What is the gf of...

Thanks. It directly follows from your gf, because we need to sum up all of the gf's for different n's.


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#8 2014-05-20 16:37:34

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Re: What is the gf of...

Another way you can get the GF is by noticing that the numbers follow the recurrence:


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#9 2014-05-20 17:08:12

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Re: What is the gf of...

How does the reccurence help me find the gf?


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#10 2014-05-20 19:18:11

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Re: What is the gf of...

You can go from the recurrence to the gf and back again.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#11 2014-05-20 20:02:49

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Re: What is the gf of...

How?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
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#12 2014-05-20 20:29:56

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Re: What is the gf of...

Experimentally of course!


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#13 2014-05-21 01:04:53

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Re: What is the gf of...

Bobbym has a thread on how to get the GF of the Fibonacci numbers experimentally. Look over there.


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#14 2014-05-21 01:17:47

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Re: What is the gf of...

These are the Tribonacci numbers.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#15 2014-05-21 01:47:18

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Re: What is the gf of...

I know.


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#16 2014-05-21 01:52:00

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Re: What is the gf of...

Would you agree that getting a closed form for them is very difficult?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#17 2014-05-21 02:12:53

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Re: What is the gf of...

For whom?


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#18 2014-05-21 02:24:35

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Re: What is the gf of...

The tribonacci numbers.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#19 2014-05-21 02:29:17

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Re: What is the gf of...

I do agree.


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“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#20 2014-05-21 03:12:17

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Re: What is the gf of...

How can I look it up?


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#21 2014-05-21 03:14:46

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Re: What is the gf of...

I think by using a search engine.

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#22 2014-05-21 03:34:53

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Re: What is the gf of...

How can I look it up?

You do not need to look it up.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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