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**caspertts****Member**- Registered: 2014-05-09
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first of all, hello I'm new here and I'm not good in math so I decided to join this forum,hope we can help each other!

this is the question that I don't know the answer

D={x|x is an integer such that x^2=2)

list the elements of D

if I √2, I will not get the value of x in integer isn't?

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

caspertts wrote:

if I √2, I will not get the value of x in integer isn't?

So what can you say about the set, D?

**caspertts****Member**- Registered: 2014-05-09
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zetafunc. wrote:

caspertts wrote:if I √2, I will not get the value of x in integer isn't?

So what can you say about the set, D?

containt no element?

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The set is

Welcome to the forum;

What is your favorite color?

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**caspertts****Member**- Registered: 2014-05-09
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Agnishom wrote:

The set is

Welcome to the forum;

What is your favorite color?

thanks!my next question,if

A={1}

D={∅}

then A∩D?

sorry for asking simple question like this , favorite color?blue!

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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hi caspertts

Welcome to the forum.

A intersection 'phi' is everything in both. But they haven't got any common elements so it's the empty set again.

Have a look here:

http://www.mathsisfun.com/sets/sets-introduction.html

If that's too simple then use the search with the word 'sets' to find lots more.

Bob

Strictly speaking the empty set is { } not {phi}. There is a difference which I'll explain if you want.

*Last edited by bob bundy (2014-05-10 00:30:59)*

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sorry for asking simple question like this

Do not be sorry. All questions are worthy questions.

Yoda wrote:

A fool, no questioner is. By asking, wiser he becomes.

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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All questions are worthy questions.

I agree with your sentiment but what about:

Is it FALSE to say this question is worthy?

Bob

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Axiom: All questions are worthy.

Question: Is it FALSE to say this question is worthy?

Answer: No. [by axiom]

Which part of the axiom is contradicted?

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'

'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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I concede your point.

Bob

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yay!

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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Don't get too happy. I may yet find a sentence that does what I was intending.

Bob

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Not necessarily.

There are undoubtedly properties about questions which you cannot prove false.Example: All questions end with a question mark

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**ShivamS****Member**- Registered: 2011-02-07
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bob bundy wrote:

Don't get too happy. I

mayyet find a sentence that does what I was intending.Bob

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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hi Agnishom,

After much further thought, I find I am able to find any inconsistency or logical flaw in your theory. I therefore hold it to be a good theory.

Do you want to name it? How about "Agnishom's First Worthiness Theory"?

Bob

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**ShivamS****Member**- Registered: 2011-02-07
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bob bundy wrote:

I find I am able to find any inconsistency or logical flaw in your theory.

Your post does not make sense

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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O yes. Meant to be 'unable to find'. Whoops.

Bob

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Can we name it 'Fundamental Theorem of Worth'?

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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**Fundamental Theorem of Worth** it is then. Congratulations.

Bob

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**ShivamS****Member**- Registered: 2011-02-07
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Prove the theorem. I thought it was an axiom.

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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ShivamS wrote:

Prove the theorem. I thought it was an axiom.

You are right. Let's amend it to: "**Fundamental Theory of Worth**."

Is that OK ?

Bob

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**ShivamS****Member**- Registered: 2011-02-07
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It has not been proven. It must be an axiom or a hypothesis.

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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We have an axiom:

Agnishom wrote:

Axiom: All questions are worthy.

Bob

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**ShivamS****Member**- Registered: 2011-02-07
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A theory is usually supported by some empirical evidence.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Not really. Number theory, for example.

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