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#1 2014-05-08 10:57:56

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Forum Upgrade 1.5.6

The time has come to think about upgrading the forum (to version 1.5.6)

The new version has a more modern look and better spam protection amongst other things.

In terms of code it is a big upgrade and I have been playing with the new version on my PC trying to see if we can get some of our most important modifications working on it, and the math tag and hide tag can be made to work, and there is a new private messaging mod that seems to work too. But any other mods are hard to do.

The upgrade process will involve me taking a current copy of the forum, doing several upgrade steps (over a few hours) and then uploading them to replace the existing forum. During that time the forum will be "down" or working strangely.

And large upgrades seldom go smoothly ... who knows what problems we may face. I do have a test version running nicely on my PC, but that is quite different from running it on a server.

Opinions everyone?


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#2 2014-05-08 11:03:35

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Re: Forum Upgrade 1.5.6

First of all, thanks for considering my point of view.

What other mods do you need? If it is something about latex, I will offer to help you with it.

Good luck with the upgrade job

And large upgrades seldom go smoothly ... who knows what problems we may face. I do have a test version running nicely on my PC, but that is quite different from running it on a server.

Here is an workaround: move this forum to http://mathisfunforum.com/archive/ and put the new forum at the root.

Last edited by Agnishom (2014-05-08 11:11:44)


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
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#3 2014-05-08 12:01:57

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Re: Forum Upgrade 1.5.6

Hi MIF;

I have been following the PM's of your progress daily. You did good.

Upgrading will make some problems. Some features that we now enjoy may be temporarily unavaliable. That is okay, we will have some new features too. I think it will all be fine, it will just take some time. I can wait, lets upgrade!


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#4 2014-05-08 13:00:26

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Re: Forum Upgrade 1.5.6

Good luck with the upgrade! I hope it goes well and the new forum is even better.

Agnishom wrote:

Here is an workaround: move this forum to http://mathisfunforum.com/archive/ and put the new forum at the root.

Do you mean permanently?

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#5 2014-05-08 13:38:49

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Re: Forum Upgrade 1.5.6

Quote: bobbym

Some features that we now enjoy may be temporarily unavaliable.

> What features for example?

Quote: ShivamS

Do you mean permanently?

> Yes


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'You have made another human being happy. There is no greater accomplishment.' -bobbym

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#6 2014-05-08 13:40:22

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Re: Forum Upgrade 1.5.6

Don't you think that wouldn't be a very good idea?

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#7 2014-05-08 13:47:14

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Re: Forum Upgrade 1.5.6

Why?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'You have made another human being happy. There is no greater accomplishment.' -bobbym

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#8 2014-05-08 13:47:26

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Re: Forum Upgrade 1.5.6

Some features that we now enjoy may be temporarily unavaliable.

MIF has mentioned one and there may be more but until the new version is in place he will not know for sure. Why get worried about something that might not happen?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#9 2014-05-08 14:38:18

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Re: Forum Upgrade 1.5.6

Extra user images like Agnishom's "Solved" won't work (it is an old mod)
Image upload won't work, but linking to hosted images should be OK.
There may be more, but 90%+ of functionality should be preserved, plus the benefits of latest version.


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#10 2014-05-08 14:51:33

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Re: Forum Upgrade 1.5.6

Hi;

I gave him that award, might be a new award plugin for download.

Did the image upload plugin

http://fluxbb.org/resources/mods/simple-image-upload/

not work?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#11 2014-05-08 15:26:46

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Re: Forum Upgrade 1.5.6

The awards are not necessary.

I think that plugin is not supported on 1.5.6 but I can try and see if it works..


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'You have made another human being happy. There is no greater accomplishment.' -bobbym

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#12 2014-05-08 15:49:24

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Re: Forum Upgrade 1.5.6

Hi MathsIsFun,

Good luck for the upgraded version!


Character is who you are when no one is looking.

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#13 2014-05-08 16:00:08

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Re: Forum Upgrade 1.5.6

Hi bobbym, MathsIsFun;

That plugin works absolutely fine but it is not the way the image upload is here. The image is uploaded to postimg.org and then hotlinked back in the message instantly.

This is the result -> http://julianthemath.96.lt/fluxbb/viewtopic.php?id=2

If you want to see how it looks like when working: http://i.imgur.com/nQz7rcg.png
(An Add Image to Post button is added)

By the way, why are you not using phpBB?

Last edited by Agnishom (2014-05-08 16:08:33)


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'You have made another human being happy. There is no greater accomplishment.' -bobbym

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#14 2014-05-08 16:07:04

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Re: Forum Upgrade 1.5.6

I prefer this: https://fluxbb.org/resources/mods/upload-mod/

I'll test this and tell you if this is working fine.

Update: Works fine.

Result: http://i.imgur.com/LCAaJ8S.png
Configuration Panel: http://i.imgur.com/VtyK675.png

Nice mod, indeed

Last edited by Agnishom (2014-05-08 16:48:48)


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'You have made another human being happy. There is no greater accomplishment.' -bobbym

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#15 2014-05-08 20:56:16

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Re: Forum Upgrade 1.5.6

Hi;

That is a nice one. Hope MIF likes it.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#16 2014-05-08 21:58:18

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Re: Forum Upgrade 1.5.6

I see you are using imgur, which seems to me easier than image upload anyway smile

Anyway, it seems like we all want the upgrade, so this is my plan:

* When I find a block of time a few hours long I will attempt the upgrade (I will warn you guys briefly first!)
* If the upgrade succeeds well enough (say most things function ok) I will keep it in place, otherwise I will restore the old version and try again another day
* Anything that is not working properly I will attempt to fix over the next days and weeks, but some functionality may be lost so we can gain in other areas

OK?


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#17 2014-05-08 22:11:08

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Re: Forum Upgrade 1.5.6

Hi;

That is fine.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#18 2014-05-08 23:57:43

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Re: Forum Upgrade 1.5.6

That's absolutely fine. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

I had a question:

Suppose the old Image does not work in the new forum or is replaced by a different mod. In that case, will we be loosing all the existing uploaded images forumwide?

Last edited by Agnishom (2014-05-09 00:01:23)


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'You have made another human being happy. There is no greater accomplishment.' -bobbym

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#19 2014-05-09 00:37:02

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Re: Forum Upgrade 1.5.6

I think we might. I can take a backup of them though.


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#20 2014-05-09 00:56:32

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Re: Forum Upgrade 1.5.6

Its okay.
There is not much to loose....


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'You have made another human being happy. There is no greater accomplishment.' -bobbym

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#21 2014-05-09 05:09:23

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Re: Forum Upgrade 1.5.6

Bob and I will take much of that damage because we upload images for math.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#22 2014-05-09 05:40:32

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Re: Forum Upgrade 1.5.6

phrontister too.


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'You have made another human being happy. There is no greater accomplishment.' -bobbym

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#23 2014-05-09 05:48:42

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Re: Forum Upgrade 1.5.6

Yes, that will hurt.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#24 2014-05-09 06:06:19

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Re: Forum Upgrade 1.5.6

It will not hurt you. -_-

You are brilliant guys, you can regenerate them.

It will hurt the rest of the humanity who are not so smart.


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'You have made another human being happy. There is no greater accomplishment.' -bobbym

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#25 2014-05-09 06:12:47

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Re: Forum Upgrade 1.5.6

It will mean extra work, but eventually it will be done.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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