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**MathsIsFun****Administrator**- Registered: 2005-01-21
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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

Looks good!

Interesting is that the function sin( 1 / x ) is not differentiable at 0 and neither is x sin( 1 / x ) but x^2 sin( 1 / x ) is!

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Some corrections.

The Floor and Ceiling Functions are not differentiable, as there is a discontinuity at each jump.

More precisely, they are not differentiable only at integer values of *x*. (If *x* is not an integer they are perfectly differentiable at *x*.)

Similarly the function so *y*=*x*[sup](1/3)[/sup] is only not differentiable at the origin; elsewhere it is differentiable.

The *y*=1/*x* and *y*=sin(1/*x*) are not defined at the origin so it makes no sense to ask whether they are differentiable there. To be differentiable at a certain point, the function must first of all be defined there!

And the last part:

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function that is continuous at a certain pointmight not be differentiableat that point, for example the absolute value function is actually continuous (though not differentiable)at the origin.

*Last edited by Nehushtan (2013-11-28 22:49:53)*

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**MathsIsFun****Administrator**- Registered: 2005-01-21
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Thanks bobby and Nehushtan.

May I use some of your wording Nehushtan?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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May I use some of your wording Nehushtan?

I certainly would, JFF could not have said it better.

In post #2 I left out the other part of the function definition. I should have said,

f(x) is differentiable at 0 according to the SE. x^2 sin( 1/ x ) would not be because it is not defined at 0.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.** **A number by itself is useful, but it is far more useful to know how accurate or certain that number is.**

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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hi MathsIsFun

The page looks good to me. Well done!

Bob

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