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#1 2012-04-28 06:49:05

phrontister
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Deleting or editing images

I've seen some posts (can't find them now) about not being able to delete or edit images.

Well, I've found this solution...

For an image you want to edit, make a new file of the final image.
For an image you want to delete, make a new file of a tiny transparent image.

Give these files the exact file names as the ones you want to edit or delete, tick the 'Delete' box and upload the new file/s. I'm not sure if ticking the 'Delete' box is really necessary, but that's what I did and it worked.

And that's it! smile

The 'deleted' image isn't actually deleted...it's just been replaced with that tiny transparent image. I tried it here with two images that I wanted to delete. Their tiny replacements register as images but only show up as teeny little blips in the 'Uploaded Images' box (in my browser, anyway).

On that same post I also replaced an image with the one that's there now.

Last edited by phrontister (2012-04-28 07:19:06)


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#2 2012-04-28 07:46:45

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Re: Deleting or editing images

Let me try this.

Tell me if you see a white blip on the right.

View Image: Smiley.JPG

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#3 2012-04-28 08:02:31

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Re: Deleting or editing images

hi Stefy,

I see no blip.  And if I view the first image I cannot go to the second.  I don't think it is there at all.


Bob

Just going to view source.


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#4 2012-04-28 08:07:08

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Re: Deleting or editing images

So it is deleted after all.

If he is suggesting pressing the Delete check-box,then that is what I did.


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#5 2012-04-28 08:08:13

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Re: Deleting or editing images

I think it is deleted.  There's nothing in the html for it.

Bob


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#6 2012-04-28 08:10:03

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Re: Deleting or editing images

Ok.I will try to find where was the original post about that trouble.


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#7 2012-04-28 08:15:57

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Re: Deleting or editing images

I think I've made a post about it.

Bob


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#8 2012-04-28 08:20:38

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Re: Deleting or editing images

Oh,yes.The same one where you asked about the background change.Is that the one?

Has MIF come up with a green background yet?


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#9 2012-04-28 10:43:34

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Re: Deleting or editing images

I am sorry we have to do stuff like this. The image functionality is a "plug-in" and I don't know enough about it to alter it.


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#10 2012-04-28 10:46:30

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Re: Deleting or editing images

Hi MIF

I do not see a need for altering.


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#11 2012-04-28 12:27:32

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Re: Deleting or editing images

My blips won't delete, no matter what I try. sad

What file format was your second image, stefy?

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#12 2012-04-28 12:35:48

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Re: Deleting or editing images

I think it was a jpg. I am not sure,I will have to check tomorrow. It was a screenshot of a tesseract spinning,so maybe you can check it yourself.


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#13 2012-04-28 12:48:00

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Re: Deleting or editing images

Your first image is a jpg. If your spinning tesseract was animated it probably was a gif.

I generally use png, and maybe that's the issue here.

I'll test that later...I have to go out now.


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#14 2012-04-28 12:54:47

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Re: Deleting or editing images

No,it wasn't an animation. It is,I think a screenshot of an animation and both can be found in the net. I will tell you more "tomorrow".


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#15 2012-04-28 15:19:02

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Re: Deleting or editing images

Ok...testing gif, jpg & png file formats to see if there's any difference with deletion.

I'll load them in the above order:

EDIT 1: Now I'll delete them...

EDIT 2: That worked!

EDIT 3: Now I'll load the blip that won't delete:

EDIT 4: And there it is! Now I'll delete it...

EDIT 5: And there it still is! It didn't delete! (??) I'll try deleting it again (same way as I deleted the others, by ticking the Delete box)...

Hmmmm...still there! sad

Hi stefy,

Here are those pics again, including my blip.

Have to go out again...will check in tonight.

View Image: This is a tiny transparent image that can be used to \ View Image: gif.gif View Image: jpg.jpg View Image: png.png

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#16 2012-04-28 15:22:26

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Re: Deleting or editing images

Not a thing. No pictures. Were they nice at least?


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#17 2012-04-28 21:02:12

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Re: Deleting or editing images

Ok...here's a new post with the same four images, just in case. In case of what? I don't know.

I renamed the blip image to "Blip" - for no real reason. But you never know...! (actually, I suspect something).

Edit 1: They all showed up. I'll now delete them by ticking the Delete box...

Edit 2: Hah!! That worked! All gone, even the blip! Maybe MIF's image plug-in doesn't like multiple-word file names...so I'll test for that next. Uploading the same four files again, but with the blip's file name changed to a multiple-word one ("Single blip")...

Edit 3: All 4 loaded - now deleting them...

Edit 4: Aha! My "Single blip" file didn't delete! Maybe that's it, then...the plug-in has a problem with multiple-word files. I won't test it on multiple-syllable files because it might blow up.

So if that's the answer, the two blips in the post that I gave the link to in my first post are there to stay, as they both have multiple-word file names ("Dice rolls" and "Large font").

View Image: Single blip.png

Last edited by phrontister (2012-04-28 22:58:40)


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#18 2012-04-28 21:39:39

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Re: Deleting or editing images

Uploading both blip files ("Blip" and "Single blip")...

Edit 1: Both files uploaded ok. Now deleting them...

Edit 2: Done. "Blip" is no longer on the radar, but "Single blip is". Trying something else now...

Edit 3: Uploading another "Single blip" file with blip colour the same as MIF's background, hopefully making it invisible (which is what the original 'transparent' blip was supposed to do but didn't).

Edit 4: Good...that worked. Problem is, it only blends in with the background colour you've got the forum set at. Mine is SleekBlue, and other background colours will display the blip (my browser does).

Got another trick up my sleeve that I'll try soon...Ok, I tried it, and it didn't work. sad

View Image: Single blip.png

Last edited by phrontister (2012-04-28 22:54:33)


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#19 2012-04-28 22:26:57

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Re: Deleting or editing images

It isn't visible,but tge picture "frame" is. Try deleting them. Then if tge blip still stays do to tge Edit option again and see if it really deleted.


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#20 2012-04-28 22:50:47

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Re: Deleting or editing images

Yes, I knew the frame would stay visible but there's nothing I can do about that because the multiple-word file "Single blip" won't delete. I tried it again just now.

I've changed the colour of the two blips in my first post's link to SleekBlue, so for anyone using that colour style the blips will be invisible in the frame.

I guess the secret is to always use single-word files as it looks like they'll delete properly.

Last edited by phrontister (2012-04-28 23:10:14)


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#21 2012-04-28 23:16:55

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Re: Deleting or editing images

I think I had some multiple word names and they deleted.


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#22 2012-04-28 23:56:52

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Re: Deleting or editing images

I just remembered I raised this problem before (in 2009) and have hunted down my thread...here.

The images I mentioned there that won't delete are multiple-word, and I also found another one or two multiple-word files elsewhere that won't delete.

I can't find any single-word files with that problem.

Can you, stefy?


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#23 2012-04-29 00:00:13

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Re: Deleting or editing images

Testing two files, one with a ridiculously-long single-word file name (pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovulcanoconiosises.png) and the other a ridiculously-short two-word file name (a b.png). Here goes...

View Image: a b.png

Last edited by phrontister (2012-04-29 00:41:58)


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#24 2012-04-29 00:01:30

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Re: Deleting or editing images

Nothing yet. Let me try some multiple words.

Actually it would seem that I cannot store multiple word files on my phone. Sorry.

Last edited by anonimnystefy (2012-04-29 00:01:43)


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#25 2012-04-29 00:27:48

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Re: Deleting or editing images

You wouldn't have seen anything in my previous post before my second edit to it a few minutes ago, because I only uploaded SleekBlue-coloured blips.

In the first edit I tried deleting both images. 'pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovulcanoconiosises.png' deleted ok, but not 'a b.png'.

In the second edit I replaced the blip of 'a b.png' with a doggy pic (also 'a b.png' file name)...which won't delete (I tried twice).

Last edited by phrontister (2012-04-29 00:54:12)


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