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#576 2012-06-01 03:07:18

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Re: Bafflers?

The method you may have used ( solving an equation ) does not always work.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#577 2012-06-01 03:09:58

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Re: Bafflers?

When have I said that I had been solving an equation?


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#578 2012-06-01 03:11:00

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Re: Bafflers?

That is the point. You are not showing any work. I have to guess at your proof.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#579 2012-06-01 03:12:00

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Re: Bafflers?

I will post thr proof later today.


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#580 2012-06-01 03:16:13

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Re: Bafflers?

New Problem:

We start with the sequence a0, a1, a2, a3,... with a0 being a positive integer and the recurrence

If the last digit of

is 5 or less then that digit is dropped. The process stops when
has no more digits.

1) Can you find an a0 that will produce an infinite sequence?

2) An a0 that will produce a finite sequence?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#581 2012-06-01 04:31:16

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi bobbym

Last edited by anonimnystefy (2012-06-01 04:31:26)


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#582 2012-06-01 04:46:22

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi anonimnystefy;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#583 2012-06-01 04:47:22

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Re: Bafflers?

Thanks.I will start working on the new one. smile


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#584 2012-06-01 04:53:22

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi;

I am going to take a little break, see you later.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#585 2012-06-01 04:55:02

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Re: Bafflers?

Ok,see you later.


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#586 2012-06-03 04:13:39

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Re: Bafflers?

bobbym wrote:

New Problem:

We start with the sequence a0, a1, a2, a3,... with a0 being a positive integer and the recurrence

If the last digit of

is 5 or less then that digit is dropped. The process stops when
has no more digits.

1) Can you find an a0 that will produce an infinite sequence?

2) An a0 that will produce a finite sequence?



How can an infinite sequence produce a finite one?


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#587 2012-06-03 04:17:13

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Re: Bafflers?

You can have a finite sequence in this case.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#588 2012-06-03 04:18:30

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Re: Bafflers?

I suspect that this is connected to the 9^9^9^9 problem you were trying to solve.


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#589 2012-06-03 04:26:14

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Re: Bafflers?

Depends on what you mean by the word solve. In the experimental sense I solved it. But no, it is not related to that monstrosity.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#590 2012-06-03 04:27:45

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Re: Bafflers?

You solved it and haven't told me?! shame

I will work on it,anyway.


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#591 2012-06-03 04:30:18

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Re: Bafflers?

Sorry for the vague reference which is now confusing even me. What do you think I solved?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#592 2012-06-03 04:36:25

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Re: Bafflers?

The 9^9^9^9 problem. Experimentally,of course.


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#593 2012-06-03 04:40:44

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Re: Bafflers?

It was the only time I ever got to be a stubborn fool.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#594 2012-06-03 04:46:55

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Re: Bafflers?

What is the solution? And how in the world did you get the answer?


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#595 2012-06-03 04:57:50

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Re: Bafflers?

Although the technique to compute such a thing was shown to me 9^9^9 times I refused to understand it. That produced a brain caniption and now I can not understand it. Anyway, I wanted a math solution to it, hahahahahahahahahahahahhahaahh!


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#596 2012-06-03 05:17:59

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Re: Bafflers?

Can youpost a link to one of those explanations? Or send it by email?


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#597 2012-06-03 05:41:18

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Re: Bafflers?

http://www.ginac.de/CLN/binsplit.pdf

http://www.ccas.ru/personal/karatsuba/algen.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_splitting

Just shows that when those Topologists get into your favorite field then you will no longer understand it.

Einstein wrote:

Then Minkowski put my theory in terms of mathematics by which even I was unable to understand my own theory any longer!


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#598 2012-06-15 22:53:11

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Re: Bafflers?

New Problem:

Prove:


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#599 2012-06-23 22:17:24

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi bobbym,


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#600 2012-06-23 22:54:14

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi gAr;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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