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#401 2012-04-27 09:25:34
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Re: Bafflers?
I think not.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
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#402 2012-04-27 09:28:10
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Re: Bafflers?
But in textbooks all of them respond to hand methods? Do they not?
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#403 2012-04-27 09:30:23
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Re: Bafflers?
Yes they do. They are picked in that manner. Otherwise there would be no point of them teaching the hand methods.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#404 2012-04-27 09:34:31
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Yes, but can imagine the surprise of people when they find out that there are integrals that those methods can not touch! Most are shocked when they hear that because they never saw one that was impossible in a textbook! That is what happened to me.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#405 2012-04-27 09:40:31
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Yes,hapened to me,too. I am gonna test it in my class at the end of year 12. I will probably give them the 1/log(x) integral.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#406 2012-04-27 09:46:14
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Re: Bafflers?
So the only moral of the whole story is
1)That there are different types of math problems that require different mindsets.
2)Textbooks give students and teachers a misleading viewpoint about the strength of hand methods.
3) It is imperative to know which type of problem you are working on.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#407 2012-04-27 09:48:58
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Re: Bafflers?
I agree to those. So now we apply this to the other thread?
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#408 2012-04-27 09:52:23
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Yes, you should abandon the hope that the town problem has definitely got a hand method solution. Most likely, it does not.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#409 2012-04-27 09:53:40
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Re: Bafflers?
I was talking about the general term thread.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#410 2012-04-27 09:54:03
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Re: Bafflers?
Same message.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#411 2012-04-27 09:55:26
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Re: Bafflers?
It doesn't apply.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#412 2012-04-27 09:56:43
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Yes it does. Your question is the same as the 1000 digits of that square root or 100 digits of that integral. Both are done by computer and so is yours.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#413 2012-04-27 09:59:43
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Re: Bafflers?
Why if you can easily do it by hand?
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#414 2012-04-27 10:04:18
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Yes, but you only did part of it by hand. It is no different than the square root. It is the same type of problem! Using a hand method is using the wrong tool for the job.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#415 2012-04-27 10:09:55
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We are talking about the sequence 11,121,1221,12221,...,right?
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#416 2012-04-27 10:16:24
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In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#417 2012-04-27 10:23:48
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Re: Bafflers?
Why didn't you post it in the other thead?
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#418 2012-04-27 10:48:24
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You needed some proof how easy this is with the right tools.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#419 2012-04-27 10:55:55
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Re: Bafflers?
I was asking why you posted the solution here instead of there.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#420 2012-04-27 11:34:25
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Well, I was talking to this anonimnystefy.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#421 2012-04-27 11:43:16
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Re: Bafflers?
What?
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#422 2012-04-27 12:00:43
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Re: Bafflers?
This one here in this thread.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#423 2012-04-27 12:14:57
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Re: Bafflers?
Those are the same person!
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón
#424 2012-04-27 12:19:40
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Why by golly you are correct, do you know him?
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means.
90% of mathematicians do not understand 90% of currently published mathematics.
#425 2012-04-27 12:20:34
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Re: Bafflers?
Yes. I am him.
The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“A secret's worth depends on the people from whom it must be kept.” ― Carlos Ruiz Zafón