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You are not logged in. #401 20120427 09:25:34
Re: Bafflers?I think not. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #402 20120427 09:28:10
Re: Bafflers?But in textbooks all of them respond to hand methods? Do they not? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #403 20120427 09:30:23
Re: Bafflers?Yes they do. They are picked in that manner. Otherwise there would be no point of them teaching the hand methods. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #404 20120427 09:34:31
Re: Bafflers?Yes, but can imagine the surprise of people when they find out that there are integrals that those methods can not touch! Most are shocked when they hear that because they never saw one that was impossible in a textbook! That is what happened to me. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #405 20120427 09:40:31
Re: Bafflers?Yes,hapened to me,too. I am gonna test it in my class at the end of year 12. I will probably give them the 1/log(x) integral. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #406 20120427 09:46:14
Re: Bafflers?So the only moral of the whole story is In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #407 20120427 09:48:58
Re: Bafflers?I agree to those. So now we apply this to the other thread? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #408 20120427 09:52:23
Re: Bafflers?Yes, you should abandon the hope that the town problem has definitely got a hand method solution. Most likely, it does not. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #409 20120427 09:53:40
Re: Bafflers?I was talking about the general term thread. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #410 20120427 09:54:03
Re: Bafflers?Same message. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #411 20120427 09:55:26
Re: Bafflers?It doesn't apply. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #412 20120427 09:56:43
Re: Bafflers?Yes it does. Your question is the same as the 1000 digits of that square root or 100 digits of that integral. Both are done by computer and so is yours. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #413 20120427 09:59:43
Re: Bafflers?Why if you can easily do it by hand? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #414 20120427 10:04:18
Re: Bafflers?Yes, but you only did part of it by hand. It is no different than the square root. It is the same type of problem! Using a hand method is using the wrong tool for the job. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #415 20120427 10:09:55
Re: Bafflers?We are talking about the sequence 11,121,1221,12221,...,right? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #416 20120427 10:16:24
Re: Bafflers?In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #417 20120427 10:23:48
Re: Bafflers?Why didn't you post it in the other thead? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #418 20120427 10:48:24
Re: Bafflers?You needed some proof how easy this is with the right tools. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #419 20120427 10:55:55
Re: Bafflers?I was asking why you posted the solution here instead of there. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #420 20120427 11:34:25
Re: Bafflers?Well, I was talking to this anonimnystefy. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #421 20120427 11:43:16
Re: Bafflers?What? The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #422 20120427 12:00:43
Re: Bafflers?This one here in this thread. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #423 20120427 12:14:57
Re: Bafflers?Those are the same person! The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment #424 20120427 12:19:40
Re: Bafflers?Why by golly you are correct, do you know him? In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #425 20120427 12:20:34
Re: Bafflers?Yes. I am him. The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't. “It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman “Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment 