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#51 2012-02-09 06:02:25

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Re: 4.26082048... and 7.18808273...!!!

What what?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#52 2012-02-09 06:04:09

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i didn't understand what you wrote.


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
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“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#53 2012-02-09 06:06:25

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Back engineering is a technique that engineers understand well but mathematicians hardly know about. You have the finished product and go backwards to how it might have been done.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#54 2012-02-09 06:07:27

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so how did you do the pi^pi-e^e?


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#55 2012-02-09 06:08:47

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Re: 4.26082048... and 7.18808273...!!!

The last one? That was done by one of the most powerful techniques in experimental math, PSLQ or positive least squares.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#56 2012-02-09 06:10:37

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so how would you do it?

Last edited by anonimnystefy (2012-02-09 09:39:58)


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#57 2012-02-09 06:13:57

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It is an extension of some of Euler's ideas on the solution of diophantine equations. He was working with a x + b y = c. Sort of an extended GCD algorithm. In the 70's or so they came up with LLL and PSLQ to solve this type  a1* x1 + a2 * x2 + a3 * x3 +...+an * xn = c.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#58 2012-02-09 23:34:28

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so?any answers?


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#59 2012-02-10 01:52:23

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Re: 4.26082048... and 7.18808273...!!!

Answers to which one?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#60 2012-02-10 02:10:46

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0.017762163722156552067?


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#61 2012-02-10 02:17:54

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Hi anonimnystefy;

Nothing yet.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#62 2012-02-10 02:38:13

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in my opinion it's hard,but see if yu can get it.

in the mean time here's one even harder:0.29977599355844844563234443049951906581358866499641...?

i posted as many digits as i could get.


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#63 2012-02-10 02:43:11

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Hi anonimnystefy;

I am not getting that one either.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#64 2012-02-10 02:44:30

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hi bobbym

actually,here's a few more digits:
0.29977599355844844563234443049951906581358866499641489949707862078059152596041216421265809451
6094902711164020421657297267673549884938261603294324054500194908965630258177721600952836739175
5149695477449092252034688251910467768225531534088662290182738616730546250844855155711647925258
2330470463253896248312308072881794253381839936711713184619337736348047674897993991886873152132
7826518152107053749073376916231945543189818030428647304126447316591175154443043028723377301797
6459734906924101478815546638631053580499623523286387849689392733160167965139088455255789382560
0059518372712895893509952518796980644178881296098547845614834034705194603802206664301045611168
5697538558976381241223376873363791493273242269421132813648897323851308035036529289778910725977
5620701905130976538509041739201655778287519565997104672077963814551699571069601102896558588073
9926077395153929315358718081039928810510551511740285332318472892623121462418095808211853962462
6347990919222038813789274551883290164872671192324239055523590787507973294487091965553648655773
2017202959024424182699421705205247547854868647023229015464423666984978983261878771378509869754
3343986386959843729551344552535187786160978001883159103454849246709633991930861195797136059648
5274267804086277104386888106851391681465577273750777205585789541599669630503693124057915691838
2876578162080426985715913169323554441639594137148213975746519763419342748674078610210962179962
6331155277926252129235363984052690492584538617879872329351559391868436152953208949006096462967
4763127756545017326574619977588473880791212467519688924112161201983668309847972170895020331612
766657998684420173941823557523893...?

Last edited by anonimnystefy (2012-02-10 02:45:41)


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#65 2012-02-10 02:56:48

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Re: 4.26082048... and 7.18808273...!!!

Hi;

More digits are not helping.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#66 2012-02-10 04:34:36

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i gave you enough.if you give up let me know.


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#67 2012-02-10 04:56:19

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Re: 4.26082048... and 7.18808273...!!!

Hi anonimnystefy;

A few more tries and then I will.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#68 2012-03-27 08:55:33

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anything yet?


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#69 2012-03-27 09:09:09

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Re: 4.26082048... and 7.18808273...!!!

Hi;

Do you think I have been working on it all this time? I forgot about it. Somebody asked about Markov chains and that is what I have been preparing.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#70 2012-03-27 09:19:53

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I hate that guy whoever he iI.i mean,who can possibly have something to ask about Markov chains?

And I know you haven't been working on these but now you can smile


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#71 2012-03-27 09:27:22

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Re: 4.26082048... and 7.18808273...!!!

Nope, looked at my notes and did not get that one.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#72 2012-03-27 18:37:53

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Re: 4.26082048... and 7.18808273...!!!

What about the one before?


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#73 2012-03-27 18:43:59

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Re: 4.26082048... and 7.18808273...!!!

That one too, guessing them is not as easy as putting them together.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#74 2012-03-27 18:55:15

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Ok,let me know when you finish them.


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#75 2012-03-27 18:58:49

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Re: 4.26082048... and 7.18808273...!!!

Hi;

I am finished with them.

1) I tried by hand many different structures.

2) The PSLQ algorithm that solved some of the others, choked on those.

You can post the answers and add new ones.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

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