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## #1 2005-03-18 08:14:06

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### Can this be possible?

My maths tutor told me this, and I'm very curious about it. Every time I try to follow it, I get confused. It apparently proves that 1=0.
x=1.
Multiply both sides by x and you get
2x=x
Take away 1 from each side which becomes
2x-1=x-1
This can also be expressed as
(x+1)+(x-1)=x-1
Divide each side by x-1 and the answer is:
x+1=1
From this, you can see that x=0. But at the beginning I said that x=1. It has therefore been proved that 1=0.

Is this a trick?

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## #2 2005-03-18 08:23:22

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### Re: Can this be possible?

I know there IS something like this, but right at the start your tutor's proof says "2x=x" which can't be true (unless x=0 when lots of silly things become true).

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## #3 2005-03-18 08:26:41

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### Re: Can this be possible?

Aha. I knew it was a trick when I couldn't understand it!

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## #4 2005-03-18 08:42:09

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### Re: Can this be possible?

But there is this one:

Then add (-b+b) to the left hand side (this is OK because you are adding 0:      a - b + b = b

Now divide both sides by (a-b) and we have:

a - b + b   =    b
________     _____
(a-b)          (a-b)

Reducing the left side:

1 +     b     =     b
____       _____
(a-b)       (a-b)

Then subtract b/(a-b) from both sides and you have:

1=0

(Mwuuhahhah - maniacal laughter!)

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## #5 2005-03-19 04:33:09

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### Re: Can this be possible?

Hahahahahaha! It's humorous to see that algebra can prove weird things!

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## #6 2005-03-22 11:39:06

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### Re: Can this be possible?

But before we all think that Algebra is odd, there IS a mistake in the proof.

When I first saw it I was confooosed, and someone had to point out to me that because we said that a=b, then (a-b) must equal zero. When you start multiplying or dividing by zero, all hell breaks loose, and you start to get weird looking proofs.

So watch out for those in your proofs!

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## #7 2005-03-23 07:20:38

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### Re: Can this be possible?

Oh.........never mind. At least it was funny.

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## #8 2005-03-24 22:41:30

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### Re: Can this be possible?

That was weird. Any more like that?

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## #9 2005-03-25 00:34:52

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### Re: Can this be possible?

It's not a trick! There's wrong division in the course of dividing both sides of the equation (x+1)+(x-1)=x-1 by x-1.

## #10 2005-04-02 02:32:45

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### Re: Can this be possible?

I do have another......

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## #11 2005-04-14 02:52:30

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### Re: Can this be possible?

Go on then.

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## #12 2005-04-15 01:20:01

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### Re: Can this be possible?

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## #13 2005-04-15 01:24:13

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I am doing good.

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I bought a large popcorn @ the cinema the other day, it was pretty big...some might even say it was "large
Fatboy Slim is a Legend

## #14 2005-04-15 04:58:37

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### Re: Can this be possible?

I think most of us here are in the UK (well, I think, anyway).

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## #15 2005-04-15 06:08:20

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I'm actually living in Antarctica.

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## #16 2005-04-15 06:10:15

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### Re: Can this be possible?

That's because you have a thing for penguins.

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## #17 2005-04-15 06:12:42

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Actually my favourite animals are ducks. *quacks*

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## #18 2005-04-15 06:21:05

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### Re: Can this be possible?

I don't care. I know what I like and that's white white white.

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## #19 2005-04-15 06:24:01

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### Re: Can this be possible?

It's good for ye, top models eat it.

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I bought a large popcorn @ the cinema the other day, it was pretty big...some might even say it was "large
Fatboy Slim is a Legend

## #20 2005-04-15 06:26:14

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### Re: Can this be possible?

Give us grease that makes us obese....oh how we love to eat junk!

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## #21 2005-04-15 06:27:35

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### Re: Can this be possible?

Too far Tony, too far.

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Fatboy Slim is a Legend

## #22 2005-04-15 06:29:01

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### Re: Can this be possible?

Whatever Trevor

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## #23 2005-04-15 06:30:59

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### Re: Can this be possible?

Yet again, my phrase, you stole it, check earlier topics again.

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I bought a large popcorn @ the cinema the other day, it was pretty big...some might even say it was "large
Fatboy Slim is a Legend

## #24 2005-04-15 06:32:08

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### Re: Can this be possible?

Actually no, you heard me saying it and put it in here before me!

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## #25 2005-04-15 06:34:46

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### Re: Can this be possible?

You came up with drinkin bleach, I'll give you that but I did not steal whatever Trevor off you foo'

I come back stronger than a powered-up Pac-Man
I bought a large popcorn @ the cinema the other day, it was pretty big...some might even say it was "large
Fatboy Slim is a Legend