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#326 2012-04-12 11:17:42

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In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#327 2012-04-12 11:20:13

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Why?


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#328 2012-04-12 11:27:06

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The interior sum is in terms of k and so is its sum. Shouldn't the integration be in terms of k? So we are looking at dk maybe?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#329 2012-04-12 11:30:03

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Well,when we made the substitution,we had a sum in terms of x.


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#330 2012-04-12 11:58:32

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But the sum is counting in k so...


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#331 2012-04-12 12:01:59

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But x is a function of k,so there is still no problem with it. It is like saying that in a sum we have a zeta function of the counting variable we should change the counting variable to zeta.


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#332 2012-04-12 12:13:21

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In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#333 2012-04-12 12:16:10

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There you go.


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#334 2012-04-12 12:21:45

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In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#335 2012-04-12 12:25:27

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Didn'tI already submit it?

And why would I leave out everything after step 5?


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#336 2012-04-12 12:37:24

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Hi;

If it were to my professor or some other bloated topologist I would include everything and even throw in a couple of conjectures by Tarski.

But because this is to gAr who understands a CAS he would see that step 5 is easy with a CAS and even can be done by hand.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#337 2012-04-12 12:44:22

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Remind me again which is the step 5.

And what's the point of leaving it out?


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#338 2012-04-12 12:58:34

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In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#339 2012-04-12 13:10:38

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“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#340 2012-04-12 13:13:04

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In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#341 2012-04-12 13:16:14

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“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#342 2012-04-12 13:19:57

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In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#343 2012-04-12 13:36:19

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“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.

“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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#344 2012-04-12 13:43:25

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Hi anonimnystefy;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#345 2012-04-12 13:45:51

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I will keep it for the sake of completeness.


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#346 2012-04-12 14:11:36

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Hi bobbym

Do you know how to do #4. I need a hint. I tried the differentiate and integrate method,but it doesn't give any results so far.


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#347 2012-04-12 17:50:23

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Hi;

I do not think I solved that so I do not have any idea.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#348 2012-04-12 18:01:53

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Okay. Tell me if you get anything.


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#349 2012-04-12 18:12:34

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Don't you have to solve them by yourself?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#350 2012-04-12 18:15:51

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Yes,but I need a hint!


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