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#1 2011-05-03 21:00:16

killbox
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Show that Cn is a decreasing sequence of positive numbers?

show that Cn is a decreasing sequence of positive numbers
Cn = 1 + 1/2 + ... + 1/n - ln(n)
where n is part of N excluding 0

Thanks! just can't find the steps to prove it
(2nd year university maths)

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#2 2011-05-03 21:30:41

123ronnie321
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Re: Show that Cn is a decreasing sequence of positive numbers?

Hi killbox,
I shall show you one of the approach.
Plot a rough graph of y = 1/x. Now you know C(1) = 1. C(2) = 1 + 1/2 - Log2. Note that Log 2 is the area of the graph 1/x from x = 1 to x = 2. and 1/2 is the area under y = 1/2 from x = 1 to x = 2. Thus Log2 > 1/2. Second term is less than 1. Apply similar approach for C(3)

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#3 2011-05-03 23:15:13

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Re: Show that Cn is a decreasing sequence of positive numbers?

Hi Killbox,

Can you show that C(n) will always be positive?

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#4 2011-05-03 23:39:23

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Re: Show that Cn is a decreasing sequence of positive numbers?

not too sure about that at the moment.
thanks for your help smile

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#5 2011-05-03 23:47:08

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Re: Show that Cn is a decreasing sequence of positive numbers?

You are welcome!
Did you understand the first part?

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#6 2011-05-03 23:48:24

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Re: Show that Cn is a decreasing sequence of positive numbers?

yeah.!
do we just say it is positive from the graph?

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#7 2011-05-03 23:56:20

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Re: Show that Cn is a decreasing sequence of positive numbers?

It think it is possible. But you will have to prove it logically. Try it. Try to see the behavior of C(n) graphically for n = 2,3 and then a bit larger.
smile
Come back if you have any problem.

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#8 2011-05-04 00:02:44

gAr
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Re: Show that Cn is a decreasing sequence of positive numbers?

Hi all,

The same question is discussed here: http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110503043025AAaeWnn

A good solution, which I liked is:

Last edited by gAr (2011-05-04 00:04:00)


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#9 2011-05-04 00:09:02

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Re: Show that Cn is a decreasing sequence of positive numbers?

Hi gAr,
nice solution!

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#10 2011-05-04 00:14:28

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Re: Show that Cn is a decreasing sequence of positive numbers?

Hi 123ronnie321,

Credits to the person who answered in that forum!


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#11 2011-05-05 03:52:16

123ronnie321
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Re: Show that Cn is a decreasing sequence of positive numbers?

Hi Killbox,


I stumbled upon this while searching the net http://math2.org/math/constants/gamma.htm

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